DISQUS

Suburban Turmoil: The Stepmother Takes a Blog Beating

  • hhaley · 5 months ago
    As a step mom and a mother of a daughter who has a step mom. Let me just say I have always treated my "step" son as he was my own. 10 years later it was me who he called when his wife up and left in the middle of the night. He wanted a non judgemental ear and knew I would just listen. Makes me think we did something right along the way. As far as "my" daughter and her stepmom I have always just asked that she treat her as she treats her own also, she falls smack in the middle of her childrens ages and it would hurt me more if she felt left out and not loved, as opposed to having another "mom".
  • FireMom · 5 months ago
    Here's a different perspective:

    I placed my firstborn child for adoption. I would be absolutely heartbroken if her Mom didn't love her as if she were her own. She is her own. I want her to experience love from all sides, as she does. She knows that I love her in my way. She knows that she has unconditional love from me, from her Mom, from her Dad and, now, from her stepdad. (Yes, it just gets all the most interesting... but lovely at the same time.)

    Why wouldn't a biological mother, adoption or divorce causing the title, want her child to be loved, wholly and completely and without the need for title or question? Shouldn't that be what we want for our children? Shouldn't that be a heartfelt hope of ours? That those who come into their lives, other parental figures or their future spouses, love them with an unconditional, total love?

    It's my wish for ALL of my children.
  • Audra Flammang · 5 months ago
    I could not agree more with you. I thought the same thing when I read the Gisele comments. I'm sure it brings out the Mama bear in a woman to see someone else staking claim on her baby. BUT, as a mom, it would make me feel much better to know that my hypothetical ex's new wife crazy loved my baby. My "steps" have been in my life for over 20 years, and I don't consider them steps- just family whom I love. Gotta put the kids first, always.
  • kgirl · 5 months ago
    I would agree that the real point to Gisele's statement is that she loves that child, solid. She maybe could have conveyed it publicly in a way that's a tiny bit more sensitive to his mother, but it's a whole hell of a lot better than her saying that she'll never bond with a child that's not her 'own.' Plus, this kid was born (and maybe even conceived) very, very early on in her relationship with Tom Brady. Many women would have bailed. Kudos to her.
  • katie · 5 months ago
    Lindsay - Unfortunately, I had to take my post down because the comments were too personal and mean.

    I actually agree with you in re-reading my post that saying "my kids" or "my girls" is okay for stepparents and can even be a good thing. I didn't express that well. What I meant to say was that there should be some sensitivity on the part of the stepparent in terms of "public mothering" when the kids already have a mom who lives and mothers in the same community in which you do.

    I also agree with you that the kids' needs trump all. But the fact is that when mothers and stepmothers don't communicate well, the kids are the losers. And my perspective as a mom is that while there are certainly things I could do better from my end to make that communication go better, there are also some things stepmoms could do to help that communication go better. And one of those things is to not be inappropriately aggressive (for lack of a better way to put it) in trying to take the place of mom when the kids already have a mom who is capable of doing it quite nicely, thankyouverymuch.

    And before the trolls attack, let me be 100% clear that IN NO WAY am I referring specifically to my kids' stepmother or any other specific stepmother in sharing my views. Instead, I am looking at the issue from the 30,000 foot perspective.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    What I love about you Katie is that we can disagree and still get along. :) I'm sorry you got flamed for that post. That sucks. I won't allow anyone to do that here.

    In a perfect world, mothers and stepmothers would get along and communicate. Unfortunately, that's rarely the case in real life. I maintain that if the stepmother is respecting the kids' wishes, she's also respecting the wishes of the mother. If the mother feels uncomfortable with the stepmom around, the kids will pick up on that and feel uncomfortable too, and that should be the stepmom's cue to back off. And that has been my own personal experience from time to time. I've spent the last eight years doing the complicated move-in, back-off dance and it is far from easy. :)
  • Kate2009 · 5 months ago
    It's very clear to me, though you are not stating it bluntly that you have an issue with Step Mothers. You also said it plain and clear " And one of those things is not to be inappropriately aggressive in trying to take the place of mom" you feel your position as Mom is threatened. This is a control issue.
  • Karen · 5 months ago
    I agree with Lindsay's post wholeheartedly. However, (this is directed at Kate's comment) I think it is unfair to call that a control issue. I have never been in that situation, either as a step-mother or as a mother watching my children gain a mother, but I can only imagine it would be extremely hard, to say the least. I don't think it means a person is controlling because they have a hard time watching another woman mother their child. You can say that is wrong, but I believe it is natural, atleast at first.
  • Karen · 5 months ago
    I agree with Lindsay's post wholeheartedly. However, (this is directed at Kate's comment) I think it is unfair to call that a control issue. I have never been in that situation, either as a step-mother or as a mother watching my children gain a mother, but I can only imagine it would be extremely hard, to say the least. I don't think it means a person is controlling because they have a hard time watching another woman mother their child. You can say that is wrong, but I believe it is natural, atleast at first.
  • Kate2009 · 5 months ago
    Hey Karen, If those are your feelings then no one can tell you your wrong for having them as long as they don't affect the children. That is when I have a problem with it. Sometimes it isn't the divorce that affects you the most but the fact that your childrens affections may be divided and I can't blame anyone for that.
  • katie · 5 months ago
    I don't have an overarching issue with "stepmothers" any more than I have an issue with "grandparents" or "sisters."

    I do have an issue with stepparents of either gender who believe they get to be a full parent, in every sense, publicly and privately, starting the moment they say "I Do," or in some cases, even before that date.

    Parenting, whether it's by birth, adoption or marriage (step) is something you earn the right to do. It's not a given. You don't automatically become a parent just because you happen to be married to or dating some kid's father any more than you become a parent simply by the act of producing sperm that leads to pregnancy.

    I do have a control "issue." Yes I do. My four children are MY children. I've earned the right to have that "control" via four pregnancies, about 10 years of breastfeeding, 17 years of hard work and one nasty c-section scar. Along with their father(s), I've named them, changed their diapers, held their hands on the first day of preschool, wiped away tears, arranged playdates, sat in hospital rooms and prayed over them, held them 'til the fevers broke, cried myself to sleep with worry, etc, etc, etc. For 17 years. You get the picture.

    I am their mother. I am not their "biomom" or "BM." I didn't lose the right to be their mother in every way just because their father and I couldn't remain married. That wasn't part of the deal when i decided that a divorce was the best bad option for all of us.

    There are wonderful mothers and terrible mothers (and then the rest of us, who mostly fall in the middle). But you know what? There are also stepmothers who suck. They overstep their boundaries and violate the mother-child bond, couching it all in "the kids' best interests."

    And once again, let me add the disclaimer that my blog post - the one that started this (that I had to take down) was not about my kids' stepparent, or about any specific stepparent. It was about this online culture of disrespect for divorced mothers that exists among all the many, many, many stepmom blogs and message boards, where we "biomoms" are pretty universally dissed, reviled, sneered at and insulted by women who believe they have the right to do this simply by virtue of the fact that they married someone with kids.

    Obviously, there ARE mothers who are not good parents, and there are situations where the stepmother is the "real" parent, and the mom is absent or abusive (and I noted this in my original, now deleted blog post). But to read those stepmom blogs and message boards, you would have a hard time finding one stepmother who doesn't consider her boyfriend/husband's children's mother to be a moneygrubbing, mentally unstable bitch who doesn't know how to care for her own offspring.

    -Katie

    PS: One more time for the record: my kids' stepmom is terrific. So trolls, hit the trail. This discussion isn't about me, her or my kids. It's about something bigger than that taking place among women online.
  • Kate2009 · 5 months ago
    Your very one sided and I don't mean to sound like I am picking on you and your feelings in anyway. Truth is you seem hurt by what is written online on sites that are meant for "stepmoms". Why are you even on there? If only to torture yourself because you obviously take it personal. The only "stepmoms" who are probably even on there are the unhappy ones and thats what unhappy people do..complain! Rightfully so because that is their space to complain and gripe about how THEY feel. Being a Step parent can't possibly be glamourous in anyway. After all why would anyone want to deal with a difficult situation like that when they can find someone else without kids and an ex. The few that I do know are practically saints and I don't know how they do it. Step parents can only parent as much as the child lets them and I hate to say it but some kids actually like their step parents more than their real parent and I'm sure it's because they "earned" it. The part where you list all the things you have done for your children (which by the way you sound like a very good mom) some Step parents have done as well (except for the giving birth/breastfeeding part) truth of the matter is, not all mom's give birth to their children (there is surrogacy and adoption) or choose to breastfeed but it doesn't make them any less of a parent if they are doing all the same things you do including crying yourself to sleep with worry. Some Step parents become responsible for child support and pay it without complaint. How can you just dismiss that?
  • Helen · 5 months ago
    Katie, I agree with your comments about stepmothers being careful about their public role. My mother was extremely hurt that during her amicable divorce, my stepmother would turn up to parent-teacher meetings and doctors appointments. She didn't feel that my stepmother needed to butt out, but that education and medical decisions should be left up to the parents.

    Most stepparents only get to see the kids once a week or fortnight - this is not the same as full time parenting - although some days I wish it was! You cannot claim that you have the same relationship as their primary parent. If your kid was visiting their in-laws fortnightly, it would drive you crazy to have them butting in on their daily lives.

    That said, obviously joint of full custody stepmothers is an entirely different situation.

    Lindsay, to make your post less biased you should have put up some of Kate's comments that you agreed with. That said, how I would have loved my mother and stepmum to GROW UP and get along! In fact, I might just be sending them this post....
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    With all due respect, Helen, this wasn't a balanced news article, it was my opinion on why I disagreed with Katie's post (whom I greatly respect and admire, by the way).

    When I wrote this post, Katie's blog post was still up. It's unfortunate that you can't read the rest of it now, but she chose to take it down. Maybe she'll repost it on her site, where she has more control over the comments... I hope so.
  • mommyneedsacocktail · 5 months ago
    I get what you are saying and you are totally right.

    And I think if anyone other than Gisele had said it, it would have been better received. But anyone with a memory is remembering that he ditched his baby momma when she was 4 months pregnant to hook up with Miss Supermodel. Things were so bad that when that baby was born, his father didn't even know his name.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I remember that, but they were also just boyfriend and girlfriend, right? They hadn't made a lifelong pact to stay together. If I remember correctly, that baby was totally unplanned.

    And that history certainly wasn't Gisele's fault. From what I can see, she's trying to make the best of a bad situation, which I would contend is what a lot of stepmothers are doing out there. Divorce is never pretty, no matter how amicable the parties involved.
  • Kate2009 · 5 months ago
    I agree with you 100% Lindsay.
  • legallyblonde7 · 5 months ago
    I have to completely agree with you. Take cues from the kids. I am 26 and and have a fantastic stepdad. While I don't call him "dad" - he and my mom are introduced as my parents. He introduces me as his daughter... There is no step! I lost my dad to cancer at age 17 and my mom remarried when I was 22. He made NO attempts to "be my dad" or "replace my dad" but he became a parent. He took on three stepkids and treats us as he treats his one biological daughter. And my mom - becoming a stepmom has "been there" for as much as my stepsister will allow - and backed off also when she felt necessary!

    I love Gisele's comments - as a parent you should want the "step" parent to love your child and not treat them as a "step!"
    You hit the nail on the head Lindsay!

    Brittany
  • Beth · 5 months ago
    My 13 yo daughter just "got" a stepmom, a few months ago. Her dad had been dating her for about a year so she was familiar with her and we were both excited that they married. I am not at all freaked out about the idea of Stepmom treating my daughter like her own. I would be freaked out by the opposite, if she treated her like a stepchild or less than her biological child. I want my child to be loved, to be cared for, and to be treated like one of the family when she is with her dad and stepmom. If I wanted anything less, I would be a horrible parent. Not just me and her dad get to love her. Her stepdad gets to love her, as do her many aunts and uncles. It's impossible to have too many people to love you, isn't it? Dad and Stepmom live in another town about half an hour away, so they wouldn't be able to be involved in many activities and school functions other than attendance. But I wouldn't freak out if Stepmom were to volunteer or anything at those functions, if it were logistically possible. I'd appreciate all the help I could get.
    Though Dad and I had a horrendous divorce and have the least amount of contact possible and really can't stand each other, to say that I am "over" it is an understatement. I literally could not care less about him (other than being my daughter's father) and am happy that Stepmom is here so maybe I could have even less contact with him. I am happy for them and hope things work out, but jealousy or envy is NOT in the mix whatsoever.
  • Jeff-Lindsey Hemphill · 5 months ago
    I agree with you completely! It's almost like these moms are mad that someone else would love their child! If I were in this situation, I would want the assurance that they would be loved as much as possible whether they were with me or not. I applaud any "step" mom that fully accepts her husbands children as her own. It can be difficult to come into a situation like that and takes a lot of work to make it work, so good job Gislele.....and you too!
  • bellamomma · 5 months ago
    I think the difference with your situation is that you & hubby seem to have much more time with the girls than *most* divorced families. You can take a parenting role because in many situations it seems that you fill the mother-role in their lives (I'm not sure how much their mom is around, she may just not be a player in your blog but more involved IRL. If so, I'm very impressed at the friendship you have all developed.)

    My best friend is going through a custody battle right now that essentially stemmed from actions by the child's stepmother & her thinking that she should be able to apply corporal punishment because "it's her kid too". Um NO. No no, no no no. She continually butts in with the child's education, states that there shouldn't be extra-curricular activities because "her family" doesn't have time or money to be involved, even to the point of wanting a discussion with the child's doctor before allowing the child to have a necessary surgery - she's overstepped her bounds as a step-parent.

    There's a fine line between helping/healthy involvement & interference. So long as you can see that line & the relationships stay healthy for everyone involved I think step-parents should essentially be a third set of hands involved in raising & loving the child. You were involved in a relationship that was well beyond most people's maturity level!
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I can't imagine that any child would be okay with his stepmother administering corporal punishment and I do agree that should be the parent's decision, not hers.

    A stepparent does have a different set of expectations from a child than a parent, and generally has more limited authority. That never goes away. So it sounds like in this case, your friend probably does need to get involved.
  • Elizabeth · 5 months ago
    I agree with you. I read something about Gisele's comment on a gossip blog, and I did have an "oh no she didn't!" reaction, but mainly because of the idea that Tom married her right before or after Bridget had the baby, so Iwas imagining her still reeling for being left for another woman while PREGNANT. Gah. I can't even imagine.

    But to put all that aside, and the child first, you are so so right. I think that reaction is more to the idea of being territorial, and funnily enough, is the SAME reaction most of us would give were the stepmother acting the opposite way - we'd be defensive, astounded, wondering "who she thinks she is" to treat our children that way.

    Every child deserves to feel wanted, special, and loved by the people they live with, and not only by their parents, but the people who love their parents. Not diving in will create space that will be the child's first impression of how life was with the stepmom, and may create a space that will never narrow.

    I *still* think Tom and Gisele were tacky for getting married when they did. If he loved Bridget enough to have a relationship/ impregnate her, couldn't he hold it off until she had the baby and was stable? I just can't imagine how that would feel with all those pregnancy hormones around! I also think Bridget has been pretty classy about not trash-talking anyone or the situation in the media.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I agree, it was tacky. But Bridget and Tom were in a dating relationship, right? Not a marriage. And the child was unplanned. So while I would have preferred that he waited, Bridget was not a woman he had EVER committed to for life. That makes it a different set of circumstances, one we'll never know the full details on.
  • Elizabeth · 5 months ago
    Well ... I'm not saying anything about whether he should have stayed with her forever, or whatever else - but whatever the situation, they got pregnant, and he checked out in the middle of it. Maybe she did too, but I think a public relationship and WEDDING like he did, with that timing, was in really poor taste. And whether they had made a lifetime commitment or not, you know that hurt Bridget. There's just no way it didn't.
    On the stepmom front, however, once again, good for Gisele.
  • Karen · 5 months ago
    For all we know, Bridget got pregnant on purpose to save the relationship with Tom. You just never know.
  • Elizabeth · 5 months ago
    yikes - could be the case, but what we *DO* know is he put his you know what you know where, so he played a part in that to, and as a woman, I'm saying leaving someone while pregnant and having some high-profile courtship/ wedding during that time is just tacky. and insensitive.
  • katie · 5 months ago
    Also, in my opinion, it's the moms who really get their asses kicked all over the Web, not stepmoms.

    There are dozens and dozens and DOZENS of message boards and blogs online with the sole purpose of providing a place for stepmothers to vent about how hard their jobs are and how awful their husbands' ex-wives are. It's an online cottage industry of mom-bashing. (Google it. You'll see what I mean) There is no equivalent online community (though there are probably a few stray blogs or message boards around) by/for moms whose kids also have stepmoms, even though we too have our own concerns, issues and struggles. And every time - as a blogger - I even dip one tiny toe in to talk about those concerns in even the most general way, I am besieged by commenters telling me I am a terrible parent and that I must hate and disrespect my kids' stepmom (TOTALLY not true).

    Being a very involved, loving mama of kids who have another woman playing a mothering role in their lives - a woman I did not invite or choose - is very, very hard. And frankly, it seems it's verboten to say that out loud.

    And again with the disclaimer so we can avoid seemingly inevitable personal trolls: my kids' stepmom is excellent, and I appreciate her and respect her. My only point is that people talk a lot about how hard it is to be a stepmother, which I am sure it is. Hardly anyone talks about how hard it is to be the MOM in this situation. And it is hard.

    -Katie
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I've written before about all the negative message boards out there for stepmoms. For one thing, the sad truth of the matter is that many, many stepmothers out there see their stepkids as an every-other-weekend inconvenience, and that pains me, because the child picks up on that, even if the stepmom tries to hide it. And this truth comes out on these message boards.

    I think EVERYONE has sympathy for the mother. No one is acknowledging that it's not incredibly difficult to be in that situation from your perspective. I'm sorry that there aren't more outlets for you online, I'm not sure why that is.

    I would just hope that more moms realize how fortunate they are if they're lucky enough to be dealing with a stepmom who's involved in their kids lives and loves them, as opposed to one who would rather the kids not be there at all.
  • Meagan Francis · 5 months ago
    Another thing I've heard from stepmoms on bulletin boards, blogs, etc is whining about how the fact that their husband has to pay so much child support for his existing kids keeps them from starting a family of their own/moving into a bigger house/saving/going on vacation/whatever. Hello? If a woman marries a guy with kids, shouldn't she know going in that he's got financial/physical/emotional commitments to them and honor those above all else? I've even seen women whose own children were abandoned by their father encouraging/enabling their new husband to practically abandon HIS kids in favor for HERS -- it's like the ultimate woman-on-woman violence. I don't get it. Maybe there is some biological urge that compels women to seek protection/security for their own offspring before all others, but I would have figured we were more evolved than that.

    It goes without saying, of course, that I don't think all or most stepmoms do any of the above, but I've seen this kind of mentality enough to know it's not uncommon, either. So yeah, Lindsay, if you, or the other involved, loving stepmoms chiming in here, were my kids' stepmom I'd be grateful...but only after I cried for like a month over the fact that you existed in the first place (Sorry!)
  • Meagan Francis · 5 months ago
    wanted to add that of course there is also atrocious behavior on the part of mothers toward stepmothers and I in no way am trying to excuse them of that or gloss it over. But like Katie mentioned, I haven't seen the same kind of online community rallying around to sympathize with mothers who feel displaced by stepmothers.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    To be perfectly honest, I think most stepmothering forums are awful and full of women bitching about "bio moms" and their stepkids. I'm not sure that a forum for "bio moms" wouldn't denigrate into the same thing, with the bitching being about the stepmoms, all in the name of "supporting each other."
  • Amy · 5 months ago
    But how many stepmoms are there out there that see the kid's every other weekend visit as an interference in the life of them and their new hubby? A LOT.

    Like I said before, this is a ridiculous, judgmental post, and quite hilarious in perspective of the "blackballed" post.
  • Heather · 4 months ago
    Katie - I think you're totally right that bio moms get their asses kicked all over the web. But as a step-mother, I tend to get my ass kicked in person. You see once a bio mom finds out I'm a step parent, playdates get cancelled, backs turned, the room turns to pure ice. The online forum is a place to vent because in person, it's really amazing how cold some people can be. I've been very lucky to find some bio moms who "get" it. Moms are not welcoming to step moms. At all.

    I'm involved in my step son's life because I love him. I want the best for him. I want him to be the best he can be. But I didn't automatically get love back, I had to EARN it.
  • Stephanie · 5 months ago
    I myself am a child of divorce, I think that it takes a wonderful person to be able to come into a family and treat the children like their own. My mother treats my "step" sisters just like she treats me and my other siblings as does my "step" father. As far as we are concerned there are no "steps" in our family we are all brothers and sisters and our parents are just that our parents.
  • nedajohnson · 5 months ago
    My husband's father is his step-father. If a stranger walked into that family they would never know they were not biologically connected. They act the same, have the same mannerisms & my father-in-law has never treated his step-children any different than his biological children. He is an inspiration and I admire his ability to love unconditionally. If given the choice between that & a step-parent who makes it clear there is a difference between a biological child & a step-child or a step parent who is trash talking the biological parent, well I guess I will take love and acceptance every time.

    As a parent I want my children surrounded by love and while it might sting if they love another mother figure I would rather have that than have them feel unworthy or unwanted.

    Very well done, Lindsay.
  • Meagan Francis · 5 months ago
    As a child who grew up with two different stepmothers who tried hard -- and a mom who was palpably resentful of them for most of my childhood (and which made me very uncomfortable and stressed) -- I totally agree.

    As a mom, though, the idea of my kids having a stepmother at all makes me feel almost physically pained, so I can't say I'd be able to pull it off with any more grace than my mom did.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I feel exactly the same way! It would HURT if my children got a new stepmother. It would hurt BAD.

    I just took issue with Katie's "advice" to stepmoms to back off. I think most stepmoms know the mother of their stepkids is hurting and uncomfortable by the situations. Stepmoms don't like it either. It is certainly not a perfect situation.
  • María | Blissed · 5 months ago
    I've been a stepmom, and now that I'm divorced I'm sure one day my girls will have one.

    As long as the step mother recognizes that she is NOT their mother and never oversteps her boundaries, I'd hope that she loves them like she loves her own.

    There's a fine line between treating them as your own, and thinking they are, I've found. And any step mother to my children had better walk it closely.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    Or what? ;)
  • María | Blissed · 5 months ago
    Not sure... but something! ! lol
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    Ha! If I were your kids' stepmother, I'd be trembling in my boots! :D
  • Kate2009 · 5 months ago
    Lol! It's just not healthy to anyone involved to direct your negative energy towards someone who has nothing to do with the failure of your relationship. It's a waste of time and ends up hurting the kids. The more gracefully a parent handles the situation the better. More importantly, your teaching the kids an invaluable lesson you hope they never have to learn for themselves.
  • Becca · 5 months ago
    But how can you say that you want a potential stepmother to "recognize that she is NOT their mother" yet turn right around and state that you "hope that she loves them like she loves her own?" That doesn't make a bit of sense to me... and I would venture to state that most stepmothers out there aren't looking to replace the mother, they simply want to love the child just as they would love their own. It makes life a heck of a lot better for the child, that's fore sure.

    I totally see both sides of the argument. And being someone that is a stepmom, I understand the relationship that is formed between stepparent and child.
  • María | Blissed · 5 months ago
    It makes perfect sense. I've seen both my grandmother and my mother do it, and a couple of my friends as well: they love their step children and treat them no differently than their own as far as that goes - but they realize that they are not their mother. They leave decisions and responsibilities that lie with the mother, with the mother.

    And I've also seen the opposite, where the stepmother (or girlfriend) rushes in and decides she's going to take the mother's place. There's definitely a balance there that can be achieved.

    I've been the stepmom, and I've been a stepchild (sort of, it was a common law marriage). Now, I'm the mom of two girls who's father has a live in girlfriend. I'm seeing from all sides.
  • Brandy · 5 months ago
    Speaking as an ACOD (adult child of divorce, man I love acronyms), I could not be happier that my stepfater treated me like his own child. I don't know how my dad felt about it, and frankly, I don't care. My biological dad saw me, at most, six days a month. I was never a priority to him. My stepfather raised me. He's the one who got out my splinters. He's the one who listened to my bratty tantrums. He's the one I grieved until I thought I would collapse when he died at the age of 48.

    I realize that this is close to me, and an emotional subject. But I wonder, sometimes, if biological parents who feel threatened by a step parent are, perhaps, feeling guilty for their own lack of involvement. (PLEASE know that I'm making a generalization, and speaking as a stepdaughter, not a stepparent.)
  • kristabella · 5 months ago
    "I would advise a new stepmom to gauge her level of involvement based on how her stepchildren are responding to her presence, not her husband's ex-wife."

    AGREED.

    When my parents got divorced, I was 9. And I DID NOT like my stepmom. It was the stereotypical "you're not my mother, so don't try to be" thing. I resented her for a long time with my perception of her trying to take the place of my mom and try to out-do my mom and be the "cool mom". But she was strong and she dealt with my bitchiness and she knew I would come around and see she wasn't trying to replace anyone.

    And now, over 20 years later, my dad and my stepmom aren't even together anymore and I still regularly see my stepmom and my half-sisters.

    My thing with Gisele is that she almost seems to be flaunting it and doing it on purpose. But that's probably because I hate her and think Tom Brady is an ass for leaving his girlfriend when she was pregnant.
  • Kim · 5 months ago
    I think step-parents should always treat the kids as their own, as much as the kids allow them to. I have two step-sons. One would prefer to keep me at arms length. So I stay at arms length. The other wants me to question his friends, be interested in his love life, and be in the cheering section at whatever he is participating in. So I do that.

    I would consider it a blessing to have more people around, loving and parenting my children. The only thing I would add is that the custodial parent has the final say when there are differing opinions in parenting matters. Should the child get a piercing? What religion should the child be? Those are matters left to the actual parents. The step-parent gets to love on and support the children.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    Agreed. The stepparent almost always has a limited amount of authority, unless the parents involved agree that he/she can step up and take on more of it.
  • katie · 5 months ago
    I think it's easy to say in a theoretical way that you would be happy if another woman loved/treated your children as her own. But it's really not as simple as that.

    There really is an issue of finding balance between treating another woman's children as your own and acting as if they ARE your own. What if the woman who is now your child's stepmother has very different values than you do? Would it bother you to have her impart those to your child? What if she made decisions about education or personal appearance for your child that you didn't agree with? Would that be okay? Because if it weren't okay, there really wouldn't be much you could do about it except grit your teeth and accept it.

    As mothers, we carefully choose the adults we bring into our kids' lives - the teachers, coaches, babysitters, etc. If there are relatives we don't believe are a good influence on our kids - like an aunt or grandparent - we as parents have the right to limit contact between our child and that relative.

    But when it comes to our child getting a stepparent, we have absolutely no say in who that person is, and we have almost no control over how that person interacts with our child. It's the ultimate feeling of powerlessness for a mother, and that's scary and upsetting and hard.

    I believe there should be more empathy and understanding for the fact that it's not always as simple for us divorced mothers as, "just be glad another adult loves your child and quit complaining."

    I am lucky that my children have an excellent stepmother with whom they are developing a very important relationship. But not all moms are so lucky, and there should be some understanding for how difficult that is.

    -Katie
  • SoMo · 5 months ago
    I agree.
  • Amy · 5 months ago
    Awesome post, Katie. Love the kids all you want, they ain't yours.
  • Becca · 5 months ago
    I totally get where you are coming from Katie after reading this post. I'm a step mom and I also have a biological son. Thinking about my biological son having a step mom makes me literally feel nauseous, so I can imagine that it is a tough road to travel if it happens to you. I don't know how I'd handle the situation but knowing the type of person that I am, I am sure it would be a living hell.

    At the same time, I would hope that my step son's biological mom realizes that myself and my husband are only trying to love our son (yes, I said "our" because when I married my husband, I took on the responsibility of his son too) to the fullest. And I refer to my kids as "my boys" not "my son and stepson." It's just easier that way.

    Man oh man, this is such a tough topic! There should be plenty of love for ALL moms to go around :)
  • Pamela Watson · 4 months ago
    I agree with you, Katie. I've never been a typical person. And I decided long ago that I would raise my kids the way I was raised-- to think and question and never accept the staus quo.
    If another woman came into my children's life and taught them that the opposite was a better plan, I would go crazy. And not very quietly either.

    Although I understand where Lindsay is coming from, that step-parents can be good parents and love their step-children, I resent the implication that just because I don't want to accept all of a step-mother's well-meaning intentions toward my child that I am a jealous terrible mother.

    That being said, I think that every situation is different. Children, though impressionable, are resilient, and if you remain a good person your children will see that and learn from it, and turn out okay in the end. Even if they end up loving that other woman.
  • Kate M · 5 months ago
    I agree with you 100%! Having a step-parent who loves the child as his or her own can be nothing but good for the child. The actual role that the step-parent takes in things like discipline, etc does need to be gradual, especially if the children are older but she should definitely be all in, loving and supportive, from the get-go. Parents have to let go of their egos and recognize that the step is a permanent and important fixture in their child's life and support the step in his or her role.

    I have two friends who are the mom and step-mom of one of my son's classmates. Both are remarried and have a child with their current husbands as well. They live a street apart, room parent together, co-chair PTA events, are both active in the child's scout troop, etc. Their second children play together. I so admire both of these women and their husbands for putting the children first. It's an amazing (though certainly untraditional) family!
  • thatgirlblogs · 5 months ago
    since I'm not a step mom, all I would say is that I'm glad there's discussion going around, and I'm glad that the kids' wants/needs are what are being addressed vs. what an adult would want. at the same time, I have four kids and I know they can play parents like a fiddle. step or otherwise.
  • Minnie · 5 months ago
    And the gloves are off...

    Like you, I dove in to my bonus babies lives from the get-go. We (yes we, his biological father and I, NOT his biological mother) have custody.

    While I think trolling is awful, I can see why those would be fighting words...

    Ah yes, the hazing. Boy do I miss those days.
  • Stefany @ To.Be.Thode · 5 months ago
    I totally agree with YOU here.

    If you see my blog, I rarely talk about my kids by saying "my stepkids". They are mine to love and take care of.

    It may be different since they all live with myself and my husband full-time. Two of the three don't even talk to their mom anymore. I, for all intents and purposes, am their mom. I go to the school for all the kids, I go to their activities, I make their meals, wash their clothes, help with homework and am here when they need hugs and love. I am. Not their mom.

    I don't have much to say about the Gisele situation but I am betting she didn't mean anything to be offending to the mother. I give her props for taking on a child that isn't hers. I don't know the backstory with her and the daddy and really could care less. I am just glad that baby is getting love from all the people in his life.

    I like to think my kids (see, I said my again) are glad I am in their lives and that I have taken over the roll of their mom.
  • katie · 5 months ago
    @Minnie. I am not my children's "biological mother." I am their mother. Period. The fact that their father and I are divorced does not change my title - a very special one that's meaningful both personally and culturally. The fact that their father and I are both remarried does not change my title.

    The nuanced negativity of adding the pejorative "biological" to the title "mother" by some stepparents is baffling to me.

    -Katie, just the mom
  • katie · 5 months ago
    @Stephany -I think there is a big difference in stepparenting when the kids live full or most of the time with the stepparent.

    My advice on how to be sensitive to the mother of your stepkids' children was directed at those families where the mother is an active, full, equal or primary parent.

    And as a follow-up to my last comment, I would never dream of calling my kids' father their "biological father." He's their father.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    Katie, just as a logistics note, you can reply directly to commenters by hitting the reply button under their comment. Makes the discussion much easier to read and respond to. :) That's why I love Disqus.
  • Amanda · 5 months ago
    Hmm, that's a tough topic. I think you are probably right. I am a child of divorce and both of my "steps" treat me like I am their own and treat me the same as their own children. They were also always very involved in my life. All four of my parents were. They would sit together at events and what not. They were always extremely civil and never argued that I knew about. I agree I was much better adjusted and my life was more enriched and happy because of it.

    But, on the other hand, one of the biggest reasons I fear divorce is that I just don't think I could handle another woman acting as mother to my children or having to be away from them for court appointed times. Not that I don't love my husband, but the situation with the children would be the hardest for me to overcome. But, I agree with you that you have to put aside those feelings and act in the best interest of your children and it is not in their best interest to be petty and jealous.
  • Karen Sugarpants · 5 months ago
    I've never really given this much thought, but I would hope that if my marriage broke up and my boys got a step-mother, that she would love them and care for them like her own. Yes, it would sting, but I'd much rather have her love them like crazy than resent them or otherwise. I would expect that if I remarried, whoever became their stepdad would love them similarly. I had 2 step dads and a step mom over the years and while my step dads were abusive dinks, my step mom was amazing and sweet. Her marriage to my father was a tough one and yet she still treated me lovingly and was like a friend.
    I have always thought your relationship with your stepdaughters was a loving one Lindsay and it's obvious you take your role very seriously. You probably don't hear it often enough, but you're doing a great job!
  • arielsandifer · 5 months ago
    I'm so torn on this- I'm the child of divorced parents, with a step dad who is my dad, and a biological father who I had to see when I was younger, but no longer see. He remarried a FANTASTIC woman- we called her Lori-Mom and Evil Step Mom (that's how she signed cards) and we LOVED her. My mom loved her too- because she didn't have to worry who was taking care of us when we visited him. He was an asshole to her, so she divorced him (and we kept her!)
    So I had a wonderful example of how wonderful a step mom can be.
    I'm remarrying (on FRIDAY!!!) a wonderful man who is Daddy to my daughter, loves her perfectly and makes our family whole and complete.
    On the other side, is my ex husband, who was trying to tell Emma that Brian wasn't her REAL dad, because he didn't help make her, to which I replied BULLSHIT!. (not to the five year old, but to my ex) My ex has substance abuse problems, he's been completely out of the picture since she was 2...
    He's in a relationship with a woman who just had his child and I'm trying really hard to like her, but I don't.
    For 5 years, on my own, I've raising a sweet, moral, spiritual, kind child with excellent manners.. Other parents love her, teachers adore her, and the girlfriend is insisting that Emma go to church with them and that irks me- she doesn't even really know my daughter. She is the kind of Christian who gives Christians a bad name... hypocritical, judgmental....so NO, I don't want my daughter going to her church. All my ex and his girlfriend do is criticize her, and tell me how bad she is and how she needs to be punished. So if she ever marries my ex, she better stay the hell away from parent teacher conferences. And we won't be doing joint birthday parties.
    Now if he ever hooks up with a "Lori", it would be a different story...
    But he's not smart enough to do that, sadly enough.
    I will add I will never stop Emma from calling her mom, if she wants to, but between me and the internet? I don't think she'll be around long enough.
  • Geomom · 5 months ago
    See. that's the thing! Most moms can probably eventually get used to sharing some parenting with a stepmom, as long as the stepmom has *somewhat* similar values. But there is definitely a line - for example, if stepmom is a punk rocker and your 6 year old comes home from a visit with a green mohawk, that's a problem. But it is also indicative that the Dad isn't respecting the Mom. If stepmom is overstepping boundaries, he should be the one to put a stop to it. He knows much better than the stepmom what the Mom's values/sensitivities are. So if Dad is (for lack of a better term) a douchebag, it makes it very difficult for mom and stepmom to find he right balance.
  • arielsandifer · 5 months ago
    Exactly! I'm all for people LOVING my child! The more the merrier! My Husband's family adores her, our attitude has always been "Look at how lucky you are! You have 2 dads, and 6 grandmas who all love you so much!"
    You wanna come to her dance recital? ABSOLUTELY! But telling me she needs a spanking and DOING SO, when we don't and haven't spanked her is in my book, NOT OKAY.
  • Melanie@thebloggingmum · 5 months ago
    I don't see what the problem is- the child has too many people in his or her life that loves them?

    I think that it's another thing that is made to be an issue that shouldn't be an issue. World hunger is an issue. Children who are beaten and neglected are an issue. Children with multiple sets of parents are not an issue.

    Any mother who TRULY loves her child and has been the unfortunate recipient or instigator of a divorce, will not be angry that her child has another woman to love and care for her child. A huge part of motherhood is sacrifice, and allowing step-parents to love your own child is a sacrifice that is essential, and hardly the worst sort of sacrifice a mother could be asked to make.

    I think it boils down to a control issue. Do we love our children enough to relinquish control to another who would love them? Maybe they won't love them perfectly, or love them in the way we think they should, but they will still love them. They will do their best, and we have to be willing to let go and let them love our child in the best way that they can.

    It harms our children if we do not allow them to form their own opinions and ideas about their step-parents.

    The thought of a stepmother treating her stepkids as her own does not freak me out at all- I would expect nothing less. I would be concerned if she was not fully invested in the welfare of my son.
  • Becca · 5 months ago
    Melanie, I totally agree with what you are saying about why would it be a problem for a child to have so much love? And there's NOT. But what mothers are saying is that sometimes stepmothers overstep their boundary and it really is such a fine line. I'm very respectful of the fact that my stepson is the son of my husband his his ex-wife and I'm just another person to love my stepson. I don't try to "be his mother" but I am there for him and treat him the same way I do my son. It's so hard but such is life.
  • SoMo · 5 months ago
    Growing up dealing with divorce then dealing with an entering step mother, which we were instructed to never call her that so she became My Dad's Wife, and then dealing with my father and his wife having children, I think it depends strongly on the situation.

    My mother didn't want her divorce and was not comfortable seeing my father move on. That was evident to me at 6 yrs old. Also, she was dealing with just having a baby. It became more murky when his wife was more attached to my brother. Kinda left me out in the cold, but my mother had constant concerns that my brother would be taken away and that was more solidified when he went to live with them. It got worse when my dad's wife seemed to accept him as her son, but I was still my father's daughter from another marriage.

    There was a big difference between my mom and my dad's wife parenting, seeing as his wife was on the young side and had never had children. To this day there are big differences between the way she, my mom and, now, me parent. Divorce doesn't stop at the feet of the parents' children it moves on to the grandchilden and I assume farther. It is hard for me to explain the situation to my kids. It doesn't help that my dad's wife and I have had many run ins. One weird thing, I do call my "half-sisters" sisters and do my best not to let any bad feelings toward their mother affect our relationship.

    I don't think jumping right in is the right thing for every divorced situation. I think much of it depends on age of children, how affected they are by the divorce, and the original parents involved. I could see how the mother of the child would be hurt by the sentiments expressed by Bundchen and I can see where she is coming from. I think making nice with the mother of the stepchildren is a step toward making the kids' life easier. I don't think she should be disregarded at all.

    Divorce has taught me one thing, to try my hardest to never be in or put my kids in that situation. I never wanted to be anyone's stepmother and took steps to assure that.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I can't help but think that if your dad's wife had been putting you and your brother first and not her own feelings, she would have treated you both equally, and she would have only jumped in as far as you both felt comfortable with. It seems like that would have solved at least some of your family's problems, no?
  • SoMo · 5 months ago
    I will admit that there were many compliments on both sides that were aired in front of my brother and me between my mother and my dad's wife. I am not sure how it affected him, but it affected me a lot. I felt my loyalty was with my mother, but I still had to make nice with my dad and his wife. A tough decision for a child of 8 yrs old (the age when my dad and his wife got married). It, also, didn't help that everyone thought we, the kids, would just go with the flow and were confused at our hurt feelings. I won't go into it much further, because it doesn't seem necessary. This is why I said I think it all depends on the people involved and the situation. I think it is great how you treat your girls, but I see it more as the exception than the rule. And I will be the first to admit that my judgement might be a bit cloudy. :)
  • purejoy · 5 months ago
    loved this post and agree wholeheartedly. i know it's a dicey path, that step-business.
    my oldest bro is from my mom's first marriage. i never heard my dad EVER refer to him as his stepson. ever.
    and he was never my half brother and never will be. incessantly annoying?? yes. for eternity. but never half.
  • loribehr · 5 months ago
    Well I am on both sides. I was married and for seven years I was a step mom to his daughter. Now we are divorced and my two kids could find themselves with a stepmom one of these days. When we divorced it took away the role of step mom and it was as much grieving over that as it was the loss of the marriage. I agree with you On the role of stepmom. My girls mom and I learned to get along and still today we talk and make sure our kids are fully involved in each others lives. And anyone of divorce who does not pray for a step parent that treats the stepkids like thier very own and who loves them like that, is a fool. Start googling stepparenting gone wrong, look up what happens when the step kid is not loved. Blended families work when the adults can get over themselves and really really REALLY put the kids first.
  • Wendy · 5 months ago
    I have one of those step-mom horror stories that lasted TWENTY YEARS and continued on even after my dad died -- being left out of the obituary, a secret memorial service and cremation before we had time to get there, etc etc, ad nauseum.

    So, yeah, comparatively it seems really petty to be complaining about a step-mom that loves "too much".
  • Karly · 5 months ago
    I've never been divorced and my parents are still married, so I pretty much have no step-parent knowledge, but I just can't understand what the problem is behind Gisele's comment. Wouldn't the mother WANT the other woman in her children's life to love them as if they were her own? I mean, let's do what is best for the kids! I can understand that you're going to have a hard time with it, but I would think it'd be EASIER if the step-mom was someone who genuinely loved the kids and treated them as her own!

    People are weird.
  • openheart · 5 months ago
    Lindsay,
    Thank you for posting this. I guess I have "gisele syndrome" too! Trying to live in the manner that you described has been very rewarding for me and my daughter. Her bilogical mother has the same stance as the woman who wrote the blog and it has been very challenging to continue to do the right thing by our daughter. She made the last bashing very visible and since our daughter hs now made it clear she wants me to back off so I have respected that. It is a thankless job, but I have to tell you, knowing I've been as involved as our daughter wants me to be for 8 years, I'm happy to have been there for her when she needed me. I've been assured that once she gets through the teen years her heart and sould will be back as long as I continue to love her unconditionally as I do my bilogical son.
    Thank you! You posted this at a time when I needed the reminder. The step-mom gets blamed (at least in our extended family) for any trouble or issues so thanks for reminding me of the positive!
  • openheart · 5 months ago
    Additionally, I had 3, yes THREE step-mother's before I was 17. The first and third were/are AWESOME the 2nd fit the stereotype of evil step-monster beyond belief!
    I am today still close to my first step-mother who is really my "other" mom. She and my mom ultimately became coordinated aquaitences then steadfast friends and are still friends today. Their replationship is what I aspired to have with my husband's ex-girlfriend but she had/has another perception of my "role". I've read a lot of these posts and couldn't agree more with those who say it's the needs of the child that should come first. I have to constantly remember that when I'm being bashed by the mother for being involved in our daughters life (at our daughters request I might add). I have tried countless times to cooridnate schedules, appointments etc to be ignored and bashed. It is only hurting our daughter and for that I am truly sad. I am now backing off as it's ime in the dance for that role but ready and willig to step back in when requested.
  • Patti · 5 months ago
    I couldn't agree more. My husband has custody of his teenagers for a reason. Their mother didn't want to be a wife anymore, that's fine, but she unfortunately, and very publicly decided she did not want to be a mom in anything more than name only. When she left my husband she stopped attending school events, parent/teacher conferences, doctor's appointments etc. Everything in her life was more important than her children. She came first. When we got engaged, and later married, I too let the kids be my guide. They wanted me at their concerts, soccer games, teacher conferences etc. because, and these are their words, I'd been there for them through it all. I always made sure to ask if they had given their mother the information and the opportunity. She would assure them she would be there and then not show up. We were never surprised, it was her M/O, but the kids were devastated. So trust me that not every situation is normal, not every divorce is amicable or even remotely civil (all through no fault of my husband, as he was trying to protect his children) and even mothers do not put their children's needs first. My kids are my kids, period. If their mother has a problem with that then she needs start being a mother. I've raised them with my husband for 5 years. And if their Mom wants to be a part of their lives and be a mom? I will very gladly take a backseat to the one person my kids really want - their mother.
  • Marinka · 5 months ago
    I think part of being civil to the mother is being respectful to her. And publicly stating that just because you didn't give birth to your stepson (you know, the one that she was giving birth to while you --and you=Giselle in this case, were shtupping the father) doesn't make him any less your (again, Giselle's) son is totally annoying.

    I'm a step mom and I love my stepson very much. I've always known and accepted that I am not his mother. Unfortunately, his mother died recently, so I am very much stepping into the more step-mothering role. I guess I'll see how it goes. I plan on going to the school meetings just as I do for my own kids and I'm hoping that the line between mine and his will blur.

    But I still totally get why Giselle's statement is pissing people off. Because she can totally love him as must as if he were her own, but she doesn't have to get press about it.
  • Kate2009 · 5 months ago
    I'm so sorry about the loss of your step child's mother. You will definitely be taking on a more important role in your stepsons life. You can blame the media for all the press Gisele is getting because the mother of the child is also a famous actress/model and you don't see the media banging down her door.
  • Formerly Gracie · 5 months ago
    Biological Mom... or whatever we're supposed to call her... should be so lucky Stepmom loves her child THAT much.

    I biggest fear is dying only for my husband to remarry some selfish, petty whore who would treat my son and daughter horribly... and that is why I plan to live forever.
  • Kate2009 · 5 months ago
    Hi Gracie, I hope you do live forever..we all want to..just for our kids sake but there it is again "the negativity" the jealousy over another woman who might possibly help raise/love your child. Why is the woman demonized? Why did you call her a whore even though she doesn't technically exist? For your sake thank Goodness she doesn't.
  • Formerly Gracie · 5 months ago
    I didn't mean that she would automatically be a horrible person just because she'd be married to my husband and raising my children in my place.

    In fact, if I die before my kids are grown I really do hope my husband find someone else with whom to share his life and the joys of parenthood.

    I'm just saying that I would not want that someone to be a horrible person (such as a selfish, petty whore) caring for my children. I would want some that loved them as if they were her own.

    So, no negativity or jealousy here.
  • overtlytrite · 5 months ago
    sorry Katie had to take her post down due to wacky trolls! this is an interesting "argument" I would be interested in the opinions of the others that have a hand in raising her kids-her current husband is after all a step-parent himself how does her ex handle that? I think it is a difficult situation all around with no one perfect way to handle it
  • comagirl · 5 months ago
    I am a step-mother and this just makes me chuckle. I guess because in our situation I was expected (by both the kids and biological mother) to take over the mom roll. Which I did. And I love and sometimes want to smack them like they're my own!

    Their mom left when they were 8, 9 and 13. She sees them occassionally, but she loved it when I came around (even though she'll never admit it) because I allowed her to just be a friend to her kids.

    I think if the step-mother is doing their laundry, making sure they eat their veggies, brush their teeth and all of that "mother" stuff, then she has every right to treat them as if they were her own as long as everybody is on board.
  • Shana · 5 months ago
    I'm a mom. And a stepmom. And I have kids who have a stepmom. It's all very convoluted and every situation is completely different. You are RIGHT ON, though. You have to gauge your involvement and role based on what the kids' are comfortable with. Granted, that wouldn't apply to the Bundchen/Brady issue since we're talking about a baby. But my role as stepmom is based on what my stepdaughter wants, not what her mom wants. And the same goes for my kids and their stepmom.
  • Kate · 5 months ago
    I'm not a mother (yet) but I am the child of a broken home. Both my parents eventually remarried and I can tell you that my stepmother is not a stepmother. She's my other Mom. She jumped in and made it clear that she considered us her children too and that meant the world to us. My stepfather took a bit more time, but I can tell you that when he passed away, we all felt just as though we'd lost a biological parent. He was our Pops and losing him was one of the most difficult trials that's ever happened to our family.

    I know my Mom was heartbroken the first time she heard us call my stepmother "Mom" but as she thought about it she realized that this woman IS a parent to us. She made sure she was there for all the important things in our lives that she could be. She built a home that included spaces just for us. She helped us pay for college. She sent us money to pay for weddings and did all the things that a Mom does that way, but more importantly she loves us with all of her heart and makes sure we know it.

    My Mom is now remarried for the third time and my new stepfather treats us like stepchildren. He made it very clear that we weren't his children and that he would never treat us as such. He insists that there is a separation between us and makes sure we know that we're not "his." The result of this is that now, even as grown adults, we hate him.

    I understand not wanting to hurt a biological parents feelings, but I would hope that as a parent one would welcome the extra love the children receive when a new "parent" enters the scene and wants to love those children with all their hearts.
  • ckuerth · 5 months ago
    My experience is about my step-father, not my step-mother. My parents divorced when I was very young (less than one) and my mom started dating my step-father when I was five. So needless to say he had been there for most of my life that I can remember. I lived with my mother and my step-father was more of a father to me, in many ways, than my real father was. My father was not there for me all the time and having my step-father took away some of that pain, because at least I felt like someone was there for me.

    Also, I remember when I was young that my father had a live-in girlfriend who had a son the same age as me. She was very involved with everything in my life, which was great because my father didn't have a clue about most of the 'girl' things I was going through. Unfortunately, my father was not as involved in her son's life and eventually that is why they split- she didn't want to be with someone who wasn't going to be a father figure for her son and have a vested interest in him.

    I think that the more loving and nurturing parents a child can have the better off they are.
  • Kate2009 · 5 months ago
    I have come to the conclusion that this is the Mother's issue. Not the Children's. The Mother's insecurities and not how the child feels about the step parent can cause emotional problems for the children. There is always alot of mind games and manipulation involved (on the Mother's part). I really wish some "Mother's" would put their kids first (because bottom line is kids know who their mother is). You should only wish (if your child HAD to get a step parent) that they would love the child as their own. I mean, would you really want the evil step mother for you child? Just so you could feel better about yourself? I applaud Gisele. Gisele is the one who made sure this child even saw his father. That's how bad the relationship was between the parents of this child. I have no respect for the guy who left his pregnant girlfriend but I don't think Gisele should be punished because she actually loves his child. The demonization of Step Parents (step mother's in general) needs to stop. The media,books, and movies showing them in a negative light need to stop. They are hurting families. A step parent comes into a situation and the fact they even want to love kids they didn't birth should make them a saint cause we all know our kids aren't angels. Hello has anyone ever adopted?!!
  • kandjplus5 · 5 months ago
    I couldn't have said it better. This is the mother's issue.

    I have a daughter that has a step-mom, and she is sure to let her know real quick that my daughter is a 'step' and does not treat her and her 1/2 brother equally, and sadly, her dad does nothing to help.

    I have two (step) daughters and a (step) son, and whenever anyone asks, I have 5 children. I don't separate them. If they want to explain, fine by me, but I leave that up to them. I love them like they are my own. I take care of them like they are my own. But I also take their cues. And so far, they all have been positive, and they have always wanted me involved.

    Now, their mom has issues about me being involved...but I have always looked at it as it was her problem. Not mine or the kids, and maybe, hopefully one day, she'll get over herself!
  • aisaiddec · 5 months ago
    I read that article the other day and couldn't figure out why the biological mom was at all upset. Bio-mom should be happy that her ex found someone who loves the little boy and wants to make him happy. To say that stepmom loves him as if he were her own, well isn't that the goal? She feels as close to him as if he were her own. After all, not only has she been in the picture since he was born, but bio-mom and dad share custoday so the boy is with step-mom as much as the bio-mom is. Maybe biomom still has a little hostility left over from the dumping she got. Hmmm.....
  • mountainmomma18 · 5 months ago
    I like this post a lot. Now I do have a step-mom, but she and my dad married when I was thirty, so we do not have the same issues, problems. I was recently on a forum when people were discussing this and I made the mistake of bringing up the point that Gisele is a second language speaker, so I guess I would cut her some slack in the she is offensive department because i think she was just trying to make the point that she loves her step son. In my extended family we have a few blended families and our thought has always been great there are more kids to love. No one seperates grandkids or neices and nephews as "blood" or "step", no one really cares. I think the more people a child has to love and support them the better.
  • KristiStevens · 5 months ago
    Lindsay, how right you are to take your cues from the kids. My parents divorced early and I got two step-parents before the age of 8. Stepmom: SCORE. I believe in my heart of hearts that she was placed in my life to fill the parts of mothering that my own mother was unable to do. Stepdad: FAIL. Long story, but I made it clear to everyone (and still do) this "man" is not my father. My real (and wonderful) father and my great stepmom divorced when I was 22. Twenty years later she is still one of my best friends, I still go to her for motherly advice and my kids call her Grandma because she IS their Grandma. Kids let you know what they need. If they need you - be there. If the "real" mom can put her own feelings above those of her child, she'll be relieved they didn't get Cruella DeVille as a stepmom. Your girls are blessed. And those blessings will be returned to you. Best, K
  • Amy · 5 months ago
    This is a pretty ridiculous post.

    If you are a child's step-mother, your relationship with that child begins and ends with having respect for the birth mother.
  • Karen · 5 months ago
    While I agree that the mother should be respected by the father and step mother, I disagree that the relationship begins and ends with that.

    The kids are usually the only completely innocent ones involved. They did not choose to be in that situation, so their delicate feelings must be considered FIRST!

    Either do that, or all the parents can chip in for the therapy bills when the kids inevitably need it.
  • Amy · 5 months ago
    Considering the child's feelings is fine. But say the child's request goes against the mother's wishes?

    That's the way lots of stepmoms become (rightly so) enemy number one.
  • Becca · 5 months ago
    Amy, you seem extremely hateful and I'm wondering why?

    And when you divorce/remarry, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE CHILDREN. The children are the ones who take the brunt of a divorce, so the children SHOULD be the ones who are listened to. I would say that *most* children know who their mother is and who their stepmother is and what roles each of them play. It is the adults being selfish (on both sides) that cause tension between mothers/stepmothers.
  • Amy · 5 months ago
    I don't have children at all, actually. I do have step parents, who never pretended they are my parents, which I am grateful for :).
  • Becca · 5 months ago
    Well, that's good! :)
  • MWJanet · 5 months ago
    A 'birth mother' or a 'biological mother' is a woman who gives up a child for adoption.
    It is incorrect to call a child's 'mother' a 'birth mother.' And no doubt, quite offensive to many mothers out there.
  • Lori · 5 months ago
    I think the issue is that the mom feels like the stepmom will be loved/liked more than she is. That she will be a replacement instead of a co-parent. I think that's what upsets people the most. The thought that another woman can just replace them. And you definitely have to consider the circumstances surrounding the father remarrying. If he was having an affair or left the mother under "questionable" terms, then the new stepmom is going to get the brunt of the "hate" directed at her.
  • Shannon · 5 months ago
    Thanks for your post - it states what I think/feel/experienced. My parents divorced when I was 8 & sister was 13, partly bcz dad was on 3rd affair. Dad lived w/ this woman & she was evil to my sister & I, and gave her kids preferential treatment. My mom had ill will towards both dad & dad’s gf for a long time. After mom & dad figured out it was about me & sister they started to get along & the 4 of us did things together, but dad’s gf couldn’t deal. Finally, when I was 17, dad said adios to gf. Mom, sister & I were all thrilled to be rid of her. Dad moved from WI to FL for job. Then Dad moved to TN when I was 19 & ended up getting married to a woman he didn’t know for very long & that sister & I had never met. To say we were EXTREAMLY CONCERNED is an understatement. Dad & stepmom came to WI to visit & sister & I fell in love w/ her. Our mom was threatened & felt she was being replaced, even though sister & I were grown adults supporting ourselves. Then mom realized that she’d done all she could to raise us to the best of her ability & to be happy that dad’s new wife didn’t treat us like his past gf did. Now mom & stepmom are friends. I moved from WI to TN at age 23 & mom told stepmom to make sure she takes good care of me. When mom comes to TN to visit for a week, we spend at least a couple of days w/ dad & stepmom. In fact, Dad, stepmom, 1 of my 4 stepsisters (her hubby & 3 kids) & I came to visit my WI family last Oct. & my stepsister even left her kids w/ my mom (her stepdad’s ex-wife) so she could attend a wedding in my dad’s extended family.
  • Shannon · 5 months ago
    Kids (of all ages) need love, and I love that my mom & stepmom care about eachother too. They’ve both had medical issues lately & each is concerned about how the other is doing. Even adults need love – from family, from friends, etc. – the more loved one is, the better off one is. Through my stepsisters I have 4 nephews & 1 niece who I love like my own. They are raised like siblings & loved by their aunts as if they were the aunt’s child, but aunt knows mom has final authority. My sister (bio) & I are having growing pains bcz of this – she feels I don’t respect her boundaries because I disagree w/ them. She does not have a very good rapport w/ our mom & doesn’t want her son around our mom bcz of it. I think that just bcz our mom didn’t always make the best decisions w/ us, doesn’t mean that she doesn’t love her only grandchild w/ all her heart & wouldn’t follow my sisters rules for the child; besides, a child needs all the love it can get. We don’t agree & won’t agree, but that doesn’t mean I don’t respect her boundaries.

    Sorry, just had to vent.
  • Red1980 · 5 months ago
    I am delurking to comment. As the stepmother to a fantastic almost 9 year old I know how you can love a child as your own. He is my son. I have to agree with you in that you take your cues from the child. When my (step)son was younger he didn't feel comfortable hugging me in front of his mom because she would get sad. Therefore, I didn't push it. I still showed up whenever he asked. Now, he sees his parents as Mom, Dad, and me and often refers to the three of us together. I am a parent by circumstance, but I am a mother by love. I will never try to replace his mom, and I will do everything to maintain a civil relationship with her. We do okay today, but that is because I took my cues from him.
  • beth_k · 5 months ago
    Katie said it very well. If a mom is mothering in the same community as the stepmom, it is inappropriate for the stepmom to rush in and take over "mom" duties. Love the kids, yes, but let the mother do her mothering and don't interfere. Act when asked.

    May you never find out about how all this works from the mom end of things, Lindsay.
  • Reluctant Housewife · 5 months ago
    Well, speaking as a mom, I'd be happy if my sons had such a loving relationship with their step mom (if they had one).
  • staceystace · 5 months ago
    A couple of thoughts:

    I am less interested in my childrens' stepmother loving my children like her own. I welcome her to care for them anytime they are visiting their dad, but the way that she parents her children is much different than the way I parent mine. My children are my priority and while I teach them to respect her, as do I, she is not to take the mothering role. I do that. I have taken great pains to respect her in her role, but I do not apologize if I over-rule her, given a difference in the non-negotiables. Some see this as being controlling. It absolutely is. I am a parent . I have to be in control - but not for reasons of wanting control just for the sake of control. It is all about being the mom I am meant to be and putting the training of my children over the "rights" of anyone else who may enter their lives while they are minors.
  • CeCe · 5 months ago
    As the adult child of divorce, I would love to tell you that everything between my mom and my step mother were all wonderful. I would love to tell you that my stepmother was kind to me. I simply can't.

    But... I would like to think that my childhood experience was the exception when it comes to blended families. My husband treats my 14 year old son as his own. He loves him just as much as our 4 year old Daughter.

    I think the reason parent bashing bothers me so much, whether its from an estranged ex spouse, or a step parent, is when you tell a child one of their parents is &$%#@, you are telling them that they are one half &$%#@. Kids cannot overdose on love. SO whether you knew you were their parent the first moment they drew breath, or God knew you would be their parent years down the road... give love and watch them grow.
  • Aunt Becky · 5 months ago
    Man, Lindsay, what a trip. Been trying to figure out what to say about this for ages. My husband is my son's step father (my eldest, I should clarify. Although clarification really adds nothing to this story whatsoever) and has been his only real father figure for most of his life. Nat, his biofather, isn't really...well, he's around but less and less so.

    He couldn't tell you Ben's teacher's name, his doctor's name, his favorite color, his shoe size, nothing like that. The Daver (my husband) could tell you all of that and more. Has always, ALWAYS been there for all of us. There's no doubt he's 20 times the father that Nat is.

    But I try to imagine anyone filling my shoes, and I cringe. I would hope and imagine, though, that I would be honestly thrilled that someone else loved my children as much as I do. And that is how I think I'll end my comment.

    Man, I am itching to write a post about this.
  • dailysnark · 5 months ago
    I'm a step-mom to three boys. The two oldest are from one mother, the youngest from another. My relationship with the two oldest boys is so different from the one with the youngest. After a little trial and error I now get along pretty well with my husband's first ex-wife, which made for such a better relationship with her boys. She was happy that I liked her sons and got along with them and wanted to treat them like my own. I never tried to "be" their mom. I was there when they needed me, I pitched in to help with school activities and homework and whatever else they needed. As a result, now that they're older, we have a great relationship—all of us (my husband, his ex, and the boys). The ultimate compliment came when she sent me a Mother's Day card one year. I still have that, it meant so much.

    It was a much different scenario with my youngest stepson's mother. Even though she remarried and expected her husband to be a good stepparent, she didn't like me doing the same (double standard much?). I won't go into all the details, but it was and still is a rocky relationship with my youngest. He picked up on our animosity and felt like he had to "choose" his mom. And the one who really lost out was him.

    The bottom line is, it HAS to be about those kids. They need everything and everyone to make them feel happy, loved and well adjusted. Parents and step parents have to leave their egos out of it.
  • sarahcaiafa · 5 months ago
    I am that child and I have both sides.

    My mom remarried and my step father treated me as his own since the day we met him. I love him as my father. I was devestated just as his own biological sons were when he passed. I always tell people that my step dad was/is my father. My kids had an unbelieveable bond with him. He is the reason I am who I am today. My step father attended my wedding as my bio father wouldnt. My step father bought me my first car. He gave me guideance and unconditional love.

    My bio dad and his wife total oppisite. My step mother saw us as a threat. We saw them twice a month. Any time we needed money or feild trips my bio dad would have to tell us no. Anytime we needed new clothes that burden fell soley on my mother and step father. She made it clear that it was her kids that mattered and that was it. There was never a bond with her. It was always an issue to have us go on vacations with my father. He took us but we never did a family vacation with her and her kids. She was cold hearted. My father saw her true colors and is in the process of divorcing her.

    I would much perfer the love and affection of a step parent than having to deal with what my step my put me and my sister through. If my husband and I were to divorce I would love that the step parents be involved whole heartedly as that is what is best for my children to see that yes mommy and daddy can get along but they can also get along with new spouses as well. that we all love them.
  • FyreGoddess · 5 months ago
    This came up for me just the other day.

    My son has a step mother who is 9 years older than him. She came into his life when he was 13 years old and, in the case of my son, AFTER all the trouble and turmoil. He's an exceptionally pleasant teenager, but he was a surly, asshole of a young child. This sounds incredibly mean, but it's the honest truth.

    She listed my son as one of her children on her Facebook page and, frankly, it bothers me a LOT. His time is equally split between my home and his father's, but he is not engaged at their house. His step-mother is not a mother-figure to him, she is more of an ally.

    Add to that the fact that they've been lying about my ex-husband's age (because he's 10 years older than his wife) to make it more acceptable to her friends and I have serious problems with the entire situation.

    As much as she wants to play happy family, that's not the case. She is not involved in raising him, she was not a part of his life until he was old enough to not need intensive parenting and, even then, what she provided was tempering his father when he was being too harsh. In fact, since my son's father hooked up with his wife, he's been pretty neglectful of our son. It's his pattern with new relationships. My son keeps to himself the 50% of the time he's at their house and actively avoids his (half) brother who he cannot stand to be around.

    I am offended that this *very* young woman has claimed MY child as her own. I am offended that she claims him publicly and discounts that he has a very strong and healthy relationship with my family and only goes to her family's outings because he's not given a choice.

    I would feel completely differently if she had participated in actually raising him when he was young. I would also feel differently if he lived with them more than half the time. Her being closer in age to my son than to his father does have something to do with it, but less in terms of age and more in terms of life experience and the very sheltering life that she's led.

    It would be entirely different if it was about her *treating* my son as her own, or even referring to him as her son in casual conversation. It's her proclaiming it to the world that bothers me. Because she's not his parent and she has never held that role with him.
  • Alice · 5 months ago
    WOW - look at all those comments. I haven't made it through them all, but my opinion (as a stepkid and friend to stepmothers) is mostly in line with yours. The hardest part is that things change, so you may be pushed back after feeling like everything was 'totally fine'. Being able to step back gracefully is HARD, but it's so, so necessary in these instances. I'm thankful that my stepparents have (mostly) been able to do that over the years.

    One thing I've found helpful is to realize that stepparents are the equivalent to inlaws, especially when the kids are older - they may grow to care for you in your own right, but you're in their lives because you're connected to someone they loved before you were in the picture.

    I do agree with Katie Allison Granju re: "Definitely don't start acting as your husband's stand-in or equal ... with your stepchildren's mother." It's just messy, and best avoided.
  • Heidi · 5 months ago
    I'm unmarried and childless, so I guess this is a situation I don't really have any business commenting on, but I hope that, if my future children ever get a stepmom, I will be a big enough person to let someone else love them, because being loved is never a bad thing, and it's certainly not a competition.
  • Nanette · 5 months ago
    I have two main quibbles with the original quote. The first is that Gisele Bundchen speaks about her stepson with quite a bit of possessiveness. "My child, mine, my son, my angel..." All about what the boy is to her. I can only hope she meant "I love being a parent, it is a wonderful thing that our child has three wonderful parents in his life, etc."

    Secondly, I believe that Bridget has never spoken publicly about her son, nor has she exposed him to public photos. Gisele seems to be doing the opposite of that. (I'm not meaning this to turn into whether "stars" should expose their kids to the media.) I just find it interesting that the two seem to have very different ideas of how the public side of the child should be handled.

    I'm just bothered by how much Gisele's actions seem to be about her, and her relationship with the child. I wish it were more about the co-parenting and love that all three parents give the child.
  • MGXD · 5 months ago
    My daughter's father and step-mother's priorities are much different from mine and my husband's. Even though we disagree on many things, I have worked diligently to make sure I never show animosity or disdain for her father or step-mother. I very much want my daughter to have a good relationship with them. I praise them often and admonish the ugly things she says about them from time to time. She loathes the fact that her father is bi-polar and is never consistent (varying from raging alcoholic to extreme fundamentalist Christian). I feel it is important that she have a relationship with her father despite his faults simply because he is her father and loves her as much as I do. She sees his weaknesses and expresses her knowledge of them. I listen and try and encourage her to visit, spend time with her half brother/step sister and be part of the family.

    But my daughter is just that...my daughter. Saying she is "theirs" or I am the "bio mom" does nothing more than further make my daughter feel different. She does not want to be a part of the dysfunction. She does not want to call her step mom "Mama _____" because she doesn't "feel" it. I understand this and will not pressure her to do what does not feel natural.

    On the flip side, I am also a step-mother. I would NEVER try and step into the place of my beautiful step-children's mother. They have a mother. I love their father. I've loved the children (now 17 and 14)since they were 10 and 7. They are my children too. BUT they are also NOT MY CHILDREN. Nothing, no matter what will ever bridge that bond between mother and child when a family is divorced. I cannot physiologically, mentally or emotionally fill that space. Nor would I try given that they have a mother. For those who feel they need to: have your own children, do not try and make your beautiful hubby's your own. They belong to someone else!

    My husband very much feels the same way. We had a very awkward situation the other day when my daughter expressed that she like my husband better than her own father and he was her"Dad." Great you say? NO! She has a father that loves her and wants to be with her. I may not agree with his way of life, his belief system..his anything, but he is HER FATHER. He has as much right to be her parent as I do.

    A child has 2 parents: Mom and Dad. Those that are brought into the fold CAN be blessings, but they will never be Mom OR Dad nor should they try. They can be honored friends, confidants and family members. But they are NEVER Mom or Dad. To refer to anyone other than those two as such simply demeans the role of Mother and Father because it confuses those that have to use those terms.
  • Margie · 5 months ago
    I applaud step-mom's who are able to genuinely love and treat their strp-children as their own. I grew up with 2 half-sibs and my dad treated them both horribly.. it is extremely damaging and tragic. Moreso because my mother allowed it to happen- but that's another story.

    That being said... as a mother, I would be very annoyed if, for example, I went to sign up as party mom for MY CHILD"S classroom only to see that their step-mom had beat me to it. Step-mom can and should make a wonderful addition to the parenting team, filling in when mom can't be there or maybe lives in another city... but if real mom lives nearby and is hands on and involved... as a common courtesy, step-mom should defer to the mother on these things, unless other arrangements have been made.

    Not that Giselle is doing this (or you Lindsey)- just saying how I would feel.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I would not like that either as a mother. And I'd argue that if the stepmother is putting the child first, she would know to step back when the mother wants to participate, because that's what's best for the child. At least that's how I handled it.

    My girls' mother worked a lot and couldn't make it to certain events when the girls were smaller, and my husband coached their soccer teams, so those were the things I made an effort to participate in. On the other hand, she loved their dance recitals, so those were purely her domain. It wasn't even an issue. If she wanted to get involved, I stepped back. If she didn't or couldn't, I stepped up. That worked very well for us.
  • Margie · 5 months ago
    side note... sorry I keep spelling your name wrong... care to guess what my daughter's name is and how it's spelled? ;)
  • Shannon · 5 months ago
    You're girls are lucky. I'd love to learn more about your & their mom's relationship - not in a voyeuristic type of way, but more of a "this has been my experience" way that other can learn what to do or not do. Regardless of weather or not others agree or disagree w/ your experience, I think it can help create dialog in an area that is sorely needed, and you have a good reach for it to be effective.
  • cagey333 · 5 months ago
    After my mom left my dad, he married one of the kindest, gentlest persons I know. My stepmother. I was 13 when they were married and I was not always open to her but I never lose an opportunity NOW to tell her how much I appreciate her. Her influence on me has been profound and I am grateful that I had her as a mothering example. My dad's marriage to her has ended up being the healthiest example of a marriage for me. I can only hope that my own is half as happy as theirs!

    My stepmom always followed our lead - we were teenaged girls and not always on our best behavior. She was very patient with us and I hope she thinks it paid off. I think it has, because I love going to my dad's to hang out with them and I love that my children will never see her as a "step" anything - she is simply Grandma Karen to them. As it should be.

    I could see where Bundchen's quotes are provocative, but the tabloids have been singing that tune since the very beginning of her relationship with Brady. Since that relationship began on a controversial/splashy note with Moynanhan announcing her pregnancy so soon after the breakup, it was to be expected that the tabloids had to take some sort of angle on the whole thing. They obviously chose the "competition between mommies" angle, which is sort of a fresh take - sells more copy, no? Also, another VERY important fact is that Brazilians are very, very family friendly - it is Bundchen's culture to be open towards children.
  • laels_mom · 5 months ago
    Being a stepmom myself I do love my stepdaughter as my own. I have been there since her second day of life. I would not be scared if a stepmom treated my kids like her own unless she was an overall bad mother. I know my stepdaughters mom takes comfort in how I love her daughter. It helps her breath a little easier knowing I am just as protective of mine than I am of hers.
  • chelon · 5 months ago
    My sister is a step-mother, and has known the kids since they were in elementary school. She has always treated them the same way she treats her biological children, and gets along with their mother very well. She considers the ex-wife family, and treats her as such. My mother comes to most of the holiday family get-togethers with my dad and step-mom and various step-siblings and biological children. She has never made us feel like our step-mom is anything less than an extension of the family, or that we should love our father any less for not being married to her anymore (personally, I think they should have divorced way before they did, but that's not my business, it's theirs!). My sisters and I were all 17 and older when our parents divorced, so didn't really deal with the school stuff, but my sister and her husband have. And their kids have always been all of theirs, ex-wife and ex-husband included. While I realize that not everyone gets along with their exes, when it comes to the kids, why wouldn't you want all of that love and concern for them? I think you are right on, and I think that Gisele Bundchen should be applauded for welcoming her step-child into her heart and loving him like he is her family, which he is.
  • Lisa · 5 months ago
    All this makes me extremely happy that my parents are still married, my husband didn't have any children with his first wife, and we won't be having any children of our own. No step-problems anywhere for me! lol
  • kelli1227 · 5 months ago
    AMEN! I am a divorced and remarried mom with a stepdaughter. My son's father remarried and he has a great stepmom as well. I love my stepdaughter just as much as I love my son. It also gives me great calm to know that my son is loved and cared for just like I would care for him when he's at his dads.
  • Mrs. C · 5 months ago
    I have to say I totally agree with you. You hit it squarely on the the head of the nail. I'm glad you are not afraid to say how you feel, especially when it's the right thing. I don't know who that lady was that wrote that stuff, but she's way off mark on that one...
  • Liz Miller · 5 months ago
    As a step-daughter with a step-mother and a step-father, I say that what you wrote here is spot on. Use your step-children's comfort level as your guide and go from there.
  • Barbara · 5 months ago
    I understand that the mother would be terribly jealous of the new woman, but as you said, she'd need to get over it. The kids are not at fault for the divorce, and most divorces are a failure on the part of both parties. It is important for both parties to be the grown-ups and teach the kids how to put your pride aside for those you are responsible to protect and keep safe, including emotionally. It saddles the kids with too much baggage to know that the mother and step are in a pissing contest over them. And they would know.
  • Ree · 5 months ago
    The best gift I ever received was a Christmas card from my "step"daughter that said, "Thank you for being such great parents."

    Not...'for being such a great dad and stepmom'.
  • kittenpie · 5 months ago
    Frankly, if my child had to have a stepparent, I'd be thrilled that the parent loved them, too. The alternative is a parent figure in their life who doesn't warm to them, leaving them with a gap that will forever tell on their psyche. I say good for Gisele for being loving. And who could not warm to a toddler?

    And like you, I had a stepdad, too, just so it's out there.
  • WhisperingWriter · 5 months ago
    If, god forbid, my husband and I got divorced and he re-married--I would LOVE if that woman treated my children like they were her own. Fine, I admit I might get a little jealous at first but then I'd realize that it's a GOOD thing that this woman is reaching out to my children. You hear so much these days about stepmothers who treat the stepkids like crap and that would just not sit well with me. Then there would be drama because I'd be all, "You better be nice to my kids or I'll kick your ass," and the stepmom would be all, "EXCUSE me?" and, well, I don't think I'm that great of a fighter so I'd end up getting my butt kicked I imagine.
  • Irrelevant · 5 months ago
    I was a stepchild, and more than once. Not once did the stepparent seek to obtain my thoughts on the matter; they just tried to assert control that wasn't theirs to assert.

    And in each case, they ran into a brick wall. A brick wall they tried to batter down. They failed. Never once was understanding or an effort to understand made; they tried the Obama "jam it down my throat" approach, and were rejected. And I have not one regret in that. Not one.

    Your method gets two thumbs up, Lindsay. You did it right.
  • MWJanet · 5 months ago
    Here's what I'd like to know, without being labelled too 'snarky.' Unless the ex-husband is a complete jerk and you had to leave him because he cheated repeatedly, drank away all your money, beat you or the kids, refused to work, etc., what happened to all these marriages? I hear so much love and concern for the kids. I think it's terribly sad that all these women who love their kids so much couldn't make it work with their father 'for the kids' sake.' Are all these divorces really the result of Daddy being a horrible person? If so, that's really scary. Is there something about having kids that puts such a strain on the relationship that it ends? I don't have kids and have been with the same man for 22 years. Sure he drives me batty sometimes and has some bad habits. We've been through some really tough times when I had no idea what to do to make it right and had to muddle through. But leave him? No way!
  • daisy75 · 5 months ago
    I too grew up in a blended family where the step parents loved each child the same, no matter who the biological parent was. There was no "step" in our household. My sisters were my sisters- no "step" in front of it, and we all called our parents "Mom" and "Dad". I am so thankful that my parents both worked hard to make that environment for us, and it really created unity in the family.
  • titus · 5 months ago
    UGH. I live this. LOL..and yes, I do a damned good job as a parent to my stepson..I would even venture as far as to say better than his mom, but I would NEVER EVER admit to that out loud.

    I am and always will be as much of a parent as the punk wants me to be, no matter what his mother thinks about it. I hate that woman with all my being, but I defend her in front of her child ,I buy her gifts, and take care of her child like he were my own.

    She hates me, and I get that..I think sometimes she would rather me hate him, too- and that I don't get. No matter what I do, it seems to be something to fight over, and that is just how it is with some exes.

    Some people are just cold hearted, hateful, and spiteful.

    (then again, what do you expect form a woman who is home and sends her kid to daycare from 7-6pm because he "annoys her"?)

    Does it make me some evil person because I love the child she created with my husband? Because I want the best for him? Because he is proud of me and me of him? Because we have fun together?

    Is it because I know how to enjoy her son when she doesn't?? (I think this has more to do with it than anything)

    He has had so many of her boyfriends he has been taught to refer to as his stepdad, that have fallen through...atleast 8-9 off the top of my head...He has never referred to me as anything other than a parent...He claims to have 3 parents, and that is fine with me.

    Don't like it? Too bad it isn't about you.
  • titus · 5 months ago
    Maybe I should elaborate by saying that I became a stepmom to punky when he was 2. His father has been with no one else. His mother has abandoned him and left the state without calling, has kept he away form dh even to the point of paying other people to hide him so that he would not be able to spend time with him. It is all spite.

    I am NOT saying that all moms dealing with a stepparent and ex are like this one, but this one is. :)

    That being said, though the woman has made my life a living hell from day one (even going so far as to call and cuss me out on my first date with dh), I have NEVER EVER EVER EVER tried to take her place, I just take my natural role as a parent. In my house, as the only woman that happens to be a mothering role.

    I do not discipline him, his father does, but he MUST respect me. I DO stick my nose into his education, and she has plainly stated that he is "the school's child to teach" and that it is "not her job"...and I like for him to be prepared. So, yes, I teach him things, I help him with stuff, I will speak to teachers.

    I DO do everything I can to be a parent to him, as his mother HATES anything maternal and has admitted to this constantly (until in court, of course).

    I CANNOT see getting mad at someone for loving your child like their own, though, no matter the situation. We would want this from a babysitter,so why not a stepmom? Yes, I am the stepmom the mom hates for loving her child.

    Throw your stones, point and laugh. I do not care. It is my job to sheild this child from the evils of the world, love him, and teach him as much as I can as one of his parents...and I don't care who doesn't like it- I don't take those responsibilities lightly.
  • titus · 5 months ago
    BTW, MWJanet, dh's marriage with the ex ended because she decided she did not like being married or being a stay at home mom. She went to work at a hotel, gt a boyfriend, had an affair, neglected her child, and dh had had enough.

    Man times the dad is free of blame, yet gets blamed anyway..and many times this is the same of moms.
  • Tawnia · 5 months ago
    My oldest daughter has a stepmom. I was terrified when she came into the picture. I resisted the urge to bitch-slap her, and run away with my child. My daughter was obsessed with her for a long time. I smiled (secretly cried) when my daughter would tell me how great she was. It has been over three years, and my daughter still loves me (I know I am insane) and she loves her SM. I give her Mother's Day cards, and she has since had a child of her own. We never talk much, but we give looks. The looks say "I know what you are going through, and thank you" She is a welcome part of my daughter's family. It hurts to have your parenting infringed on, and it hurts not to be noticed for parenting anothers child. We just all need to look at it, from the others POV!
  • Melissa Granju · 5 months ago
    WoW. That's the best story I've heard all day. Thanks for sharing it.

    It's hard on both sides and you are SO right!!
  • simplicityinthesuburbs · 5 months ago
    I have tried my best to always treat my stepkids like my own. How unfair would it be to them to spend so much time in the home of someone who doesn't treat them that way? Don't you think?
    It's a fine line and I can see different situations differently.
  • Irrelevant · 5 months ago
    Perhaps I should clarify my earlier comment.

    I don't diss step parents as a class. I have known many who found themselves in that role, and did admirably. That just wasn't my experience as a minor with a new step parent. When a step parent comes on the scene, making sweeping pronouciatos about the "slack way I was being raised" and "the party's over", and hearing nothing but absolute insults about my respective biological parents...not only has that step parent started a war, they have lost it with the opening salvo. Neither of my parents were perfect, but one in particular did the best they could. I wasn't pleased with, and didn't understand back then, all the things that went into a marriage dissolution. But I didn't need a stranger to come storming in and dictate to me all the ways my life was a shambles, and how they were going to whip me into shape.

    Nor did it work that way.

    I was, at one point, in a position to become a step parent. Mine was a more open, generous approach. It didn't work with the youngest, who harbored a fierce will that her real parents be reunited by any and all means, and anything that appeared an obstacle to that was the enemy. That meant me. It was a no-win situation (I wouldn't pit a mom against her own blood, even if her mom were of a mind to take such a stand), and that was that.

    I don't say anyone herein was right or wrong with their opinions and approach; I simply spoke for me as a former step child from a couple lousy experiences with it, and in my opinion, saying that I felt Lindsay did a helluva lot right with her circumstances as a step parent.

    But anyone who thinks I was wrong and unfair with my opinion and view of my own experience, can pound sand. If you were that kind of a step parent, pounding sand is not enough of what you deserve.
  • Kim · 5 months ago
    I have always admired how much you love your girls. I think they are lucky. I just "acquired" a stepson and stepdaughter last month when I married their father and I love them and care for them as if they were my own because quite frankly they deserve that brand of treatment. My own children think of them as family as well because that is how we are acting..as a family for heaven's sake, isn't that the point of marriage? Thanks for this, it means a lot.
  • Headless Mom · 5 months ago
    Great post Lindsey. I'm a (step) mom to a teen age girl, too, with other children of my own and your approach is great. My situation is slightly different-I did jump in with both feet, but mostly because her mother did not live in our community and her father expected me to. I've never referred to her as my (step) except in these type of conversations, and she doesn't either.

    The biggest compliment that I get is that she looks so much like me! I smile and say thanks, and let it go!
  • Boston Mom · 5 months ago
    I think Gisele is maybe not the best example. For Bostonians, she is a curse : ) Soon after she came on the scene, we lost our beloved Tommy for a full season. Also, prior to their relationship Tom's son was not talked about to the press and rarely photographed. Gisele paraded that baby around for photographers non stop, with or without Tom. And I think her comments just added fuel to an already burning fire.
  • ewe_are_here · 5 months ago
    My stepfather treated my sister and I like we were his beloved daughters, and we treated him like our dad. He was the best parent we could have had -- and did. We were incredibly lucky to have him in our lives, especially since our parents were rather screwed up.

    I miss him so much.

    I've told my husband that if anything should ever happen to me, life goes on and If he should meet someone who loves our children as if they were her own, I would want that for all of them.
  • titus · 5 months ago
    I just had to mention this here. The other night, we were watching television on the couch, and my stepson hugged me and laid his head on me and said out of nowhere that he loved me like a real mom and not a stepmom. I about cried.

    Sometimes, it doesn't matter what you do, kids will find that you love them and will appreciate them, no matter the label on the relationship. :)
  • Amanda of Shamelessly Sassy · 5 months ago
    If my husband and I ever split, I truly hope that my daughter's step-mother would love and treasure her as much as she would her own children. I hope that I would be able to put aside any differences I felt with the step-mother for the sake of my daughter.

    That said, I'm the product of two parents that married and divorced as frequently as they changed their underwear. Most of my step-parents were assholes. Serious assholes. They were rude; they resented my brother and I, especially in the child support area. They resented the attention we received, in relation to both my mother and father. At the end of the day, it was no secret that they did not like us. Not a bit, and we were good kids, well behaved children that could not help or account for the decisions of our parents. I think any child with a step-parent willing to go above and beyond is very, very lucky.
  • Bodhi. Baby. · 4 months ago
    I am a step-mother to two girls (who are now teens), and my teen daughter has a step-mother.

    I completely agree with you about letting the kids lead the way. If they are comfortable and seem to want or need your involvement from the beginning, go for it.

    I am not sure I trust advice from someone who has never been a step-mother herself, and I disagree that step-children "are not your children, even though you may love them as if they are." They definitely become your children, and they require a great deal more of our best selves sometimes. Being a step-mom (for 7 years now) is helping me to become a better person.

    Any issue the birth mother has about this is HER issue; it is not about what is best for the kids, it is about jealousy, envy and possession (it seems to me). I think it is hard for a mother to think about someone else caring for their child (I know I had difficulty at times -- especially when my daughter came back shaving her armpits and legs before I felt it was needed). But it is really not my business (as long as she is unharmed and well cared for). Just because we give birth to someone does not mean that we own them. This is a tough lesson to learn. I am still learning it.

    Thanks for posting about this. What a great discussion.
  • Heather · 4 months ago
    Amen!
  • amberscrazylife · 4 months ago
    I am standing and applauding what you wrote...which you could see if you were here, but you're not, so, never mind. Anyway, I agree with you. I have a stepson and hubby's ex wants me to not have anything at all to do with 'their' child. Sorry, but it doesn't work like that considering we are MARRIED! She's crazy, but that is another story. I am a stepchild and my dad (stepdad) took on the role as dad full force from the start and I love him dearly times infinity for it. He is the only person I know as dad and I don't even refer to him as stepdad unless the need to be legal about it comes up. I do this for my stepson as well. We were told legally, that since the hubby and I are married, I have just as much right to him as he does. To me, that makes him 'our' child. This could be our state too though. But I do agree that it also has to be with what the child is comfortable with. The parents have to get along somewhat, like it or not, for the sake of the kids. Part of who is there doing what should be up to the kids as well.