DISQUS

Suburban Turmoil: Why Mommy Blogging is No Longer a Radical Act

  • PunditMom/Joanne Bamberger · 5 months ago
    I sure hope you're wrong at least to some extent. "Mommyblogging" can still be a radical act, depending on what we write about! Since we are more than the sum of our motherhood in our "real lives," our blogs should be, too! I hope I achieve some of that as a "pundit." I think more of us can, too, if we focus on what drew us to this medium in the first place -- a space for our real voices.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    Oh I think we can write about what we want. The problem is that we now run the risk of losing "influence" if what we write about doesn't fit the mainstream image of motherhood.

    Before all this outside attention, I would argue that voices of dissension were held in higher regard.
  • St · 5 months ago
    I agree. I'm a reader, not a blogger (well, not really) and I'm still reading the same blogs I found when I started reading as well as a few I've added here and there along the way. I still find them refreshing, smart and well-written. Certainly there are those who have gone into it it looking for the money but they are easy to spot...and avoid. The good, authentic bloggers are growing in numbers as well.
  • thatgirlblogs · 5 months ago
    that's why I redesigned my blog (back to basics) and removed all the ads. I was spending all my time worrying about making money, NOT making any money anyway, and losing my voice. What I'm doing now feels much better.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I used to think that if I were a millionaire, I wouldn't have any ads on my blog. Now, I'm not so sure. I wonder if refusing all that advertising attention would put me out of the loop.

    Not saying this is you AT ALL, but I can think of more than a few once-influential mom bloggers who refused to advertise and are now off the radar. And that sucks.
  • Melanie · 5 months ago
    I blog to share my experiences. I mean, I know I wrote my tag line to be witty (100% real life, not from concentrate), but I expose myself in a (sometimes painfully) real way as often as possible. I always thought it was funny that people really made money blogging- it's terribly transparent to me when someone is blogging for money and I won't go back and visit that blog. I'm looking for authentic human connections, not advertisements. You've even teetered on that edge a few times, lol. But I think you have more real than fake, and even the fake is funny. Which is why I love your blog, and why I come back.

    I don't advertise products and I don't think I ever would. But I do get people asking my opinion about things all the time, friends calling me from all over the states, wondering what I use for this, or my opinion on that...I think it's because they know that they'll just get honesty, even if it is a little rough around the edges.

    It's interesting that you saw the mommy community as group of perfect women who have it all together- because I STILL see it that way. The number of us who don't have it together does seem to be growing, but there's still that struggle in me when I realize that I don't really measure up to all those women who do a hundred things at once and still look great at the end of the day.
  • Diana · 5 months ago
    Guilt by association. It all comes back around to what mommy-blogging for the products and trips and sponsorships does to the greater good of mommy-blogging as a whole. Sure, there is a lot of internet out there for everyone. Sure, some people have been successful doing it all for those things. But what those blogs does for the mommy-blogosphere is severely detrimental. We're all guilty by association. Suddenly mommy-blogs are no longer radical, progressive, outlets filled with what is real. And the few that are are now the exception to the rule, the outcasts. We can't make blanket statements about mommy blogs anymore. Not any that will make us proud to have roared them the way they used to, anyway.
  • María | Blissed · 5 months ago
    I don't even really have a comment. I'm just sitting here still nodding my head. Wait, no - I do.

    I am not willing to lose any part of myself to gain anything from elsewhere. It is in no way worth it to me and never has been. I will say fuck as much as I please, I will admit that my kids can be assholes sometimes and I will talk about sex and drugs and rock and roll if I want. If companies and PR firms can't see the beauty in that (it's in there somewhere, I swear it), it says more about them than it does me.

    I'll stick to the belief that people want to read real blogs, not filler and fluff, unless their only goal is to learn how better to be a stepford wife, set up unrealistic ideals for themselves or make a buck themselves and piggy back off of someone else's 'success'.
  • Maria · 5 months ago
    While writing is your craft and my craft, I think we should keep in mind that some women and mothers ARE talented cooks. Or seamstresses. Or scrapbookers. I don't want to devalue their voices. Maybe they're shitty writers but awesome cake-bakers. I don't think they're trying to assimilate the rest of us into perfect robot moms. They just speak a language that I personally can't always relate to.

    But social media blogs? Yeah, I'm over those.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I still see honest voices in certain scrapbooking/crafty/recipe blogs.

    And then in other blogs like that, I see dollar signs.

    I think it's pretty easy for most readers to tell the difference. I would like to see advertisers notice the difference, too.
  • Jozet at Halushki · 5 months ago
    "Maybe they're shitty writers but awesome cake-bakers. "

    Perfect and YES! I sometimes wonder who we're missing on the blogosphere, whose voice and experience we're missing, just because their writing isn't the King's English or even David Sedaris' English.

    How many great voices, how much of the Mommy Experience are we missing because some mothers don't even have regular access to computers? Or don't have strong English? And they are out there...and their version of radical mommyblogging would be a Whole New Thing to incorporate into the larger experience of mothering and writing about mothering. To see the similarities would be eye-opening; to see the differences in experience equally so.

    I know that I search out great writing. But your comment needs to remind me...it's not always just about the writing. It's about sharing the truth.
  • Maria · 5 months ago
    Fuck, I just enjoy comments. And people like Maria Young telling me I'm a good writer. Seriously? That makes it worthwhile.

    My blog keeps me sharp. I was a writer before I was a mother. I'm still a writer. I'm a writer with children.

    Children who have a tendency to drive my brain toward a mushy cesspool of sleepless BLAH. So I write. I just happen to write about my kids right now.
  • sarahcaiafa · 5 months ago
    I have been writing from the pain of losing my dad. Dealing with two autistic children. Being finacially drowned in ct. We dont have two dimes to rub togeather. I write and am sure only 2 or 3 people read. I read your blog becasue I can relate. Would I love to make money off my blog sure. Will that happen most likely not. My blog is my realse. The one place I can say what I want. Does it go with the mainstream motherhood picture no. Do I want to be a better mom absolutly. I like that I can come to your blog and see that I am not the only parent to flop at times as a parent. Thank you
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    It's important to add that I feel like I'm one of the people who helped open the door to all of this in the first place, by joining an ad network back when that was still somewhat controversial.

    I don't deny that I'm trying to maintain a balance between making money and retaining my voice. But I hate that I feel like I'm always literally fighting to be myself now. I've been asked by advertisers to remove curse words from my blog (I didn't). I've turned down $1500 to write a sponsored post on this blog. And then I've worried about making decisions that mean less money for my family, particularly when we're sending one teenager to college this year and another one two years from now.

    I suppose in a perfect world, I'd like advertisers to seek out mom bloggers who were THEMSELVES, warts and all, as opposed to cookie cutter images of what we see already in every parenting magazine on the rack. I realize that's a pipe dream, but there it is. I'd like to see the women who are the most honest and raw and thoughtful about the experience of motherhood get rewarded with the perks and the revenue, not the women who do the best job of appearing to be flawless.
  • Tricia · 5 months ago
    Advertisers still believe their demographic WANTS to be flawless. If there was money to be made promoting to authenticity, the ad dollars would follow. Perhaps the real elephant in the room isn't where the advertisers are going, but instead it's that women are still aspiring to be that cookie-cutter, flawless picture of perfection, and although we talk about authenticity, we haven't actually embraced it fully.
  • Melissa · 5 months ago
    Well said.

    We see the "Martha Stewart" people and try to emulate. Our own lives are no less valuable, and in my opinion the authentic 'Warts and All" people are much more appealing. I, however, am a hypocrite as I have yet to allow someone into my home when it is messy, when dishes haven't been done or laundry is spilling forth from the hampers. I embrace my friends warts without judgement and often without notice, but I am seemingly unable to embrace my own in the same light.
  • Maria · 5 months ago
    I find it absolutely endearing to walk into a messy house.

    Then, when I have someone coming over, even a dear friend, I go apeshit cleaning. Ridiculous.
  • María | Blissed · 5 months ago
    Me too!! Even when my home is "clean" (yes, it needs quotes around it) you can tell there are children in my home and that makes it look warm and beautiful to me. I don't mind toys on the floor or crayons and paper on the table. .

    Until someone is coming over....
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    Ha ha. I'm living this right now. My parents are coming on Friday and let's just say it's summer and I haven't done any quality deep cleaning in a LONG, LONG time.
  • Melanie · 5 months ago
    I want to be flawless! I do!

    I cringe when something is out of place when someone else walks into my home. I do. I want my house to look like a magazine ALL the time, and only recently have I realized that it never will and I really need to stop stressing out about it.

    Because It's my choice.

    I choose to relax and enjoy life instead of cleaning 24/7, which is what it would take to keep my home clean, between my partner and my three year old. I also choose to endure the consequence of cringing when someone else sees the mess.

    How many people don't clean up before company comes over? Would you (or any one here) continually visit a home that was constantly a mess?

    I am authentic in that I can admit that I'm a mess, and don't try to hide behind a mask of perfection. However, that doesn't mean I actually LIKE my flaws.
  • marymac · 5 months ago
    I hear you. It's the age-old debate of editorial versus advertising. I consider myself a radical blogger (go count the number of ads on my page) and would cut off my blogging fingers before I would allow an advertiser to influence what I write. I consider myself a writer and a journalist first- a blog is, to me, like an online newspaper of which I am the publisher. I HATE overly commercialized blogs- hopefully the cream blogs will rise to the top of the giveaway/commercialized blogs- because of our readers. I am happy to be what Diana describes as an 'outcast' if it means my page is not cluttered up with tons of ads/giveaways etc. But that's just lil old radical me.
  • Heather · 5 months ago
    Earlier this year I started dabbling in the commercial side of blogging, but it just didn't feel right. For me it has always been about the writing, and while I am still interested in business side of blogging, I would rather have someone value me for my distinct voice rather than my stats or subscriber count. The blogs I prefer are from people who write well and write often and my only goal at present is to offer the same.
  • Maria · 5 months ago
    GOD I am commenting again. Sorry.

    This topic makes my head hurt. Because as much as I agree with you, and as much as I dislike shitty blogs--because let's face it, that's what we're talking about here--I think it sucks big hairy dick that getting paid to write (by ads or sponsored posts or whatever) can become such an automatic WOW YOU SUCK YOU BIG SELL OUT.

    Good writing takes time and talent and effort. If some "big name" bloggers are constantly providing their readers with good, compelling content they deserve some compensation for that.

    Unfortunately, that sort of model leads a lot of folks to produce a lot of crappy content to try to get money. So it's a tough situation.

    I don't care if Mommy Blogging is radical or not, personally. I don't have a need for a rallying cry. I'm proud of my words.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    Ha ha, clearly, then I would be talking about myself as a sell out! :)

    This post is personal for me because I have seen my community change. I miss the way things used to be. I miss the feeling that we were making a difference and rewriting the history of motherhood as we know it.

    I miss the time when BlogHer was less about aggressive self-promotion and connecting with marketers, and more about meeting online friends in person.

    I miss writing whatever the hell I wanted here without giving even one little thought to how it would affect my "business." I still do write what I want, obviously, but now I cringe a little sometimes when I hit publish. Like today, for example....
  • Maria · 5 months ago
    The pot needs to be stirred. Even if it makes us uncomfortable. (If we're too comfortable, we're doing something wrong.)
  • Sarah Viola · 5 months ago
    I'm kind of EH about BlogHer this year for that very reason, and I'm going. It'll be my first, even though I'm in Chicago.

    I want to meet people, not learn how to monetize my blog, harness the secret powers of SEO or become a social media maven. I feel like I'm the minority, though, and it makes me wonder if I really belong there. Really, do I have any business showing up?

    I've decided YES, because of the parties and the opportunity to meet other women (and drink heavily) while I'm there. But honestly, I don't know if I'll even attend any sessions.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    Honestly, to me, the sessions are the least interesting part of the conference (unless Penelope Trunk is ripping me a new one, I mean). I don't know that I'll even go to any sessions the second day- I'm not seeing much there I'm excited about.

    The parties are FUN. Seeing everyone is FUN. It's overwhelming at times, but um, overwhelming is my thing so I'm into it. Some people hate the social craziness of it, though. Come and find me, okay? :)
  • PoppyBuxom · 5 months ago
    HA! I remember when that happened! It was back in the Stone Age (i.e., 2007).
  • Boy Crazy · 5 months ago
    This is very interesting to me. I have only recently started reading blogs regularly, and the only ones I've been reading have been the authentic voices. It's probably because I start with a couple, then follow the links or check out the blogs of those leaving comments. I wouldn't even know where to find these Supermom blogs if I tried...?

    Can I ask, who is reading those? How are they marketing those types of blogs? I would imagine that the people who are drawn to reading blogs like yours, Mom1o1, HBM, etc. wouldn't even be interested in reading the blogs of people who put on the Perfect Mom facade...?
  • loribehr · 5 months ago
    Oh the price we will pay
  • karenmeg · 5 months ago
    I started my blog in 2005 after the birth of my second child and the decision to stay home. Then I really discovered the blogworld in 2007, but I've only this year started to tap into the commercial end, with trepidation and tip toes only. I hesitate to sign up to every PR service available to mommybloggers (got all the stuff ready, just can't hit that "send" button), I think, for the very reasons that you've outlined so eloquently here. Not that I think that I could make a living off of my blog, but the free stuff sure is nice.

    So I grapple with this all the time. I don't even think I would call my blog content radical, it's just me, with a bit of an edge, but me. And just trying to keep my blog content relevant for ME is sometimes a task in itself.

    Thanks for your viewpoint. This was a great post.
  • Catherine Maino · 5 months ago
    Interesting perspective and certainly interesting. There is one aspect that shouldn't be lost...the opportunity for mom's who choose to stay home and raise their children to earn potential income? May daughters are 17 and 21 now, but I choose to stay home. Financially we couldn't afford it so I began direct selling. Doing in home parties to make money. It was a great way to make a living and still stay home with my girls, but I had to leave the house most every night to do so. Being able to make money by blogging would give many woman a way to support themselves without sacrificing time with their kids. Authenticity...a must in blogs! I just wish this option would have been around 22 years ago. I think the opportunities mom's have today are wonderful!
  • Julie @ The Mom Slant · 5 months ago
    Standing ovation here. Seriously, I bet you can hear it all the way from Denver, I'm cheering so loudly.

    While I'm sad, I've also decided that "influence" (which is defined tenuously these days by marketers and bloggers who are anything but radical) is overrated. I re-branded to keep my blog in line with what I like to write about. I rejoice in comments that add insight, not comments for the sake of numbers. I couldn't care less about my page rank or my Alexa rank or whether any marketers email me offering their clients' wares for review. I am all about writing for myself and to provoke discussion.

    I am still real, and I am still radical.
  • Sarah @ BecomingSarah.com · 5 months ago
    This is Exhibit A in Why I Do Not Make Money From My Website. Er. Where Exhibit B has something to do with having no traffic whatsoever and only having started my website four months ago...

    Really, though, it is. If I ever choose to run ads on my site down the road, I want it to happen on my terms. I wouldn't pitch a product to someone in real life that I hadn't tried and tested and fallen in love with, so why would I do that on the Internet? I don't even try to look perfect in real life - just friendly and sometimes funny - so why would I try to be superwoman online?

    I've been reading mom blogs for years. I remember some of your first posts and my shock when you put up your real name. I remember alot of the old-school bloggers' early posts, actually lol. There is no doubt that the blogosphere has changed significantly as the months and years have rolled by. But I think that part of blogging is continuing to enjoy it regardless of where this goes. Ads change some people and some websites, but not all of them.

    As far as losing influence and losing strong voices and good, honest writing? Well. We're all just small fish in a big pond. Losing influence was bound to happen. The rest I think it still out there, it's just a matter of weeding through the "plastic people" to find it.
  • Motherhood Uncensored · 5 months ago
    I agree that things have changed.

    And in a way, it sucks.

    Much of what I don't write about now has to do with IRL people reading my blog that just so happen to live next door. It's not as easy to talk about your husband popping a viagra just for fun when everyone on the street will ask him about it at the pool.

    My feeling is that those folks, the radicals that remain unchanged and authentic, will always shine through - perhaps they won't garner as much "acclaim" (I use quotes because acclaim these days is pretty subjective - is 15000 twitter followers acclaim? Perhaps, but not necessarily in my book) - but I suppose in the end what matters most is why they are doing it.

    Not so much about everyone else.

    "To thine own self be true" seems appropriate. As does "New radicals."
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    LOL at your neighbor problem.

    I LIVE the IRL dilemma on a daily basis, but I choose to think of it as "liberating."

    Sure I probably have a few more enemies, but at least everything's out there in the open. It's kind of fun knowing that so many people know how I REALLY feel- It gives me less of a complex about appearing totally put together to the outside world.

    And I LOVE the term "new radicals." Let's hope Time Magazine is reading. ;)
  • Jozet at Halushki · 5 months ago
    "I'm seeing fewer authentic experiences out there..."

    They are out there. The way that great niche writers get noticed was and is greatly by word-of-mouth. I think that if more of us who are A, B, C, and even D-lister mommy bloggers actively promoted the great new voices we are hearing out there and directing readers their way, more women would be more encouraged to keep it real.

    I'm not top of the food chain or Mystical Hobbit status my any means. However, when I and some Bigger Names started mommy blogging, there were a few well known bloggers and a whole lot of everyone else. And everyone seemed to really encourage each other promote each other - even with links and blog rolls and the brazillion awards we used to hand out to each other (and then ironically complain about) recognizing great writing and "keeping it real".

    Now, I suppose that the up-and-comers can (and should) search each other out and do this for each other. But when there are more Big Name post-radical bloggers with big readerships, alongside the bloggers cashing-in with perfect hair, perfect kids, and lots of ads/sponsors, I don't know that the model is there or even as possible. It's tough to put yourself out there for seemingly naught. And here's what I mean:

    I think that readers/"mommies" are still feeling alone and marginalized and are still looking for a community of women who are sharing their experiences. Why not go for the largest established community of "imperfect" mommies? I think that as a reader/mother who was feeling isolated and alone, and finding a large community of readers/commentors on the site of a well-known, successful radical mommyblogger whose writing is just as strong, just as radical as it always has been, is more personally encouraging and need-fulfilling than reading a lone voice whose writing is also amazing.

    The thing is, the reader isn't just in it for the writing - we're in it for the community as well. And as a new writer, a new voice trying to break in, well, there's some big competition out there for community building.

    That's not to say that great new writers cannot be and are not incorporated into the larger fold; I just think that it can be a bit daunting. When the basic need for many mothers who want to write is "Hear me, I am here", and the choices are "Show us your battle wounds" versus "Show us something pretty"...well, I still think that there are enough mainstream messages out there saying "Be more perfect, buy this and be more perfect, say this and be more perfect...and you will be loved", that truthful mommyblogging as a radical act is still seen as risky, dangerous, when the outcome could be remaining alone in yet one more venue.

    And I'm not saying this is true of any blogger who has sponsors or who makes a little scratch - I'd like to do that myself - but as a new writer/"mommy" who primarily wants to be heard, who wants some community, who wants to feel validated in some way, well, I don't think it's much of a stretch to wonder whether some people are filling that unmet need with the validation of a buck or two. Again, not that they don't also need or deserve a buck or two, but just that the draw toward writing for dollars might be initially easier and more personally need-fulfilling, and I mean nothing negative by that.

    I don't have an answer. But as a B-list wannabe, I can promise to continue to alert my 100-hits-a-day to other women who I think are the bees knees, both the big names and the up-and-comers. Maybe they'll get more readers; maybe they'll just feel part of the community. Maybe they'll feel okay about writing a post about poop.
  • Meredith · 5 months ago
    Damn this is an interesting discussion.

    I'm not coherent enough yet today to really explain what I want to say but I will try... I think there is a cycle to every "movement", whether it's mommy blogging or a politics or education. When it's new with clear goals it is radical because hey, we've never seen/heard/read this before. It gains recognition and popularity and new members. Those new members make their contributions and some of them are fabulous and some of them are nightmares. Then the original members of the movement see that the new members are changing things with their contributions and crap, now it's no longer so radical.

    I don't disagree with your post at all, but I think the de-radicalizing (word?) process is inevitable. Maybe joining the ever-increasing ranks of mommy bloggers is no longer a radical act but writing well about your experiences and sharing that with the world still can be. Bad bloggers are everywhere in every genre. We shouldn't let them ruin our fun.

    And do you like how I said "we" like I am one of you? Wishful thinking perhaps :)
  • Stephanie Precourt · 5 months ago
    Just because most of us can see right through the white teeth and perfect life portrayals doesn't make it any better. You've said it well. I will still admit to huge parenting fails like kids swallowing pennies, cutting hair, learning about the middle finger AND locking my baby in the car ALL IN THE SAME WEEK and I'll still keep ads on my sidebar with no remorse for either.

    Steph
  • kelly · 5 months ago
    But, now we have the reverse. We have momsnark EVERYWHERE. Women who run around writing about how they drink during playgroup, and let the kids play with sharp objects. No judgement if that is what you do, but the whole proliferation of Mom's who say Dude, and wear their parenting mistakes like some secret handshake into the cool club is boring and unoriginal. Not radical AT ALL.
  • Melanie · 5 months ago
    I think there should be some sort of judgment for mothers who drink during playgroup or let their kids run around with sharp objects.

    We need to cut ourselves slack for not being perfect parents, but at the same time, we still have a responsibility to be responsible.

    I think we get ourselves confused with the desire to admit our humanity and the irresponsibility that can wreck not only our lives but our children's lives as well.

    Please don't think I'm preaching, I am admittedly a deeply flawed parent.

    I applaud those who can be real and admit their mistakes; but I will still call CPS if someone tells me that they engage in dangerous behaviors when children are around....
  • Melissa · 5 months ago
    So, since I'm a non-mommy-blogger am I radical? ha! Me, radical. Right. I'm radical in the same way chocolate-chip cookies are radical.

    Anyway - I have been witness to the decline in forthcoming, honest, brutally real writing that made me want to blog my own, though childless, experiences.

    Unfortunately, in an economy where making ends meet requires increased creativity, we're going to see the fall of many more mommy blogs before the end. The lure of making money from something that we already do is powerful. I just think there needs to be a balance. Create content to make sponsors happy but also remember that the reason you have a sponsor-worthy following isn't the sponsor posts.
  • Miss · 5 months ago
    For me, as a blogger, as a part of a "community", this stuff matters so little to me. Why? Because I choose how I write. I choose who I read. If I follow a blogger and they start turning into whatever it is you are describing here, I stop reading. If I respect a well known blogger and they suddenly turn on partial feeds or IMO, start using their readers in any way, I stop reading. Partial feeds equals click thrus to me, nothing more, nothing less.

    You say that you see a change in your community. That saddens me because you can make "your community" into whatever you want it to be. To include whoever you want it to. I stay away from blogs like that because I dont want to worry about this sort of stuff. Believe me, the blogosphere, the "mommy bloggers", we are not a united bunch. We shouldn't have to be either.

    We are who we want to be in the big bad blogosphere. If those people want to write only for money, then they can get on with their bad selves. I wont be reading. But then again, they could probably care less if I, you, or aanyone here is reading as long as their checks keep coming in. They don't ccare about me, I could care less about them.
  • Angie [A Whole Lot of Nothing] · 5 months ago
    Yup. I agree. Read who you want. Make it want you want. Write what you want.
  • Mandy Hornbuckle · 5 months ago
    This is why I've resisted the ads. I love writing about whatever I want.

    At the same time, I read mommy blogs like yours and feel more prepared for things like PPD and breastfeeding, and the fact that you're making revenue from it is a great thing for your family. Your blog and others have really given me a glimpse into the world I need to prepare myself for, and I think that's a really valuable thing.
  • Laura · 5 months ago
    Beautifully written. A breath of fresh air. Thank you.
  • Cate O'Malley · 5 months ago
    Well said! I think it's possible, though may at times to be a challenge, to have and write a blog that walks the fine line ... one that remains honest and true to the mom's voice and original intention, yet attract some advertisers so the blog might make a little coin in the process.
  • Amanda · 5 months ago
    I'm not a blogger, but I've read your blog since you started in the Scene, and I read it daily.

    Here's what I have to say. The other blogs I read (in addition to yours), guess what? I found through YOU! Yes, when you guys had your perfect post of the month, I read all of those...I simply don't have enough time to search for blogs but I love AUTHENTIC writing and I want to thank you for leading me to Chris, Y, Julie, Mir (I love Mir...Mir writes like I think, but it comes out so much better), and others. So I guess I'm asking for help, here. As a reader, not a blogger, how can I easily find good, authentic blogs without tons of searching? I work and don't have tons of time. That's why I miss a perfect post, but maybe there's something else like it and I don't know. Even you don't have a blogroll anymore, I don't think.

    I'd also like to comment on something Motherhood Uncensored said. How authentic can you be about other people when everyone reads your blog? I know...you change certain details, but doesn't that take away from the story? So, then, you are left discussing your own feeling/experiences (like this post) or, when you talk about doing something that may not be kosher (your post on Bruiser in the restaurant last week), you get a backlash of sort. I do feel that, over time, your blog has talked less about the other people in your life (neighbors, family friends, etc.) and more about this sort of stuff...but that may be just my perception, which is often wrong. And, you don't really talk about your teenagers much, and, I know, the story is theirs...etc, etc. but I do miss that as well.

    For me? I need to hear the joys but also the low moments of parenting, because I read blogs where I know I'm not alone. That's why Chris' post about parenting her 13 year old last week really resonated with me. And that's why your post on your daughter wanting to wear makeup over at Parents.com really resonated with me. In fact, it is one of my favorite posts EVER.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    This is a very good question, Amanda, because part of my problem with the new mom blogosphere is that these lists of "influential mom bloggers" come out from time to time and they're no longer mostly-accurate representations of women who are putting out really good, compelling blog content- They're simply lists of women who are playing the self-promotion game really well.

    As writers, we should all probably make an effort to list our favorite bloggers more often.

    As for personal stories, there's definitely an ebb and flow here. I don't want to write anything I'll later regret and I definitely don't want to invade my family's privacy. Also, my neighbors are frankly BORING. ;)
  • To Think Is To Create · 5 months ago
    And there it is...I've been reading the post, the comments, trying to grasp on to one thing that totally resonated, and this reply was it, L. It's those "lists".

    So, so true.

    I do think the rest of it, your post and all the rest, were really saying this, and not that there are no good blogs or that ads are from the devil.

    I also think that those of us who are staying authentic can still find what we'd define as success, whatever that is to us, and keep the community what we want it. There's a way around the "facade people", there just has to be...
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    The sad truth is that a mom blogger can stay independent and say no to ads and no to sponsorships and no to free trips and no to products-- and she will lose influence in the blogosphere as a result, and she will also lose readership and she will suddenly find herself "out of the loop." I know you've been around long enough to see that happen, too.

    That's where this system is flawed. And I don't know how to fix it.
  • PoppyBuxom · 5 months ago
    So is that why I'm out of it? No ads and no sponsorships?

    I thought I was just clueless. ;-)
  • To Think Is To Create · 5 months ago
    I hear you, and while I agree that she may lost marketing "influence",
    I don't think she'd lose readership. Maybe I'm being pollyanna about
    it, but I think the readership sticks around b/c they like the writing.

    And I also agree that the system is flawed, but to me it's sorta like
    bemoaning that life is hard and people aren't always honest (which I
    do, often). Those things suck, but will always be true - it is what
    it is. I personally don't think we can change the way business is
    (ruthless and uncaring) so to me it's either figure out how we can
    play their (i.e. the biz people's) game without crossing the line, do
    what feels right to us each individually, and let the chips fall where
    they may. I don't think there's anything wrong with women who write
    well getting compensated for their work in authentic ways, but I get
    twitchy when I worry about things I can't control. I prefer to take
    control of what I can, and then go "ah HA! you didn't beat me you
    miserable system. suckit."

    Great discussion...

    -Arianne
  • Lady Mama · 5 months ago
    It makes me sad too because I joined the blogosphere late (last year), and really enjoy the creative space it gives me as a writer, to express my thoughts - good and bad. I love the friendships I'm developing with other bloggers - people I would never otherwise have known. And I too find it refreshing to read real stories and feelings from real parents.

    I do feel a little lost among all the bloggers, and I sometimes wonder what I'm "supposed" to be doing... But in the end if all I have is interaction with the small number of people reading my blog and a fairly well written record of my experiences, then I'll consider it a success.
  • amy · 5 months ago
    sing it sister. This spoke to me.
  • lynette · 5 months ago
    I think it can still be. If you're REAL and not "look at me, I make motherhood look easy" 'cause umm..it's not.

    And I appreciate that. I would much rather know that's it's hard and the random things I feel are natural than be completely taken by surprise because nobody ever tells you this stuff
  • grit · 5 months ago
    blogging is still radical - and now political - in our home education world, so if you want to see some boxes kicked, faces slapped, and envelopes ripped into bits, then right now it is a good place to be. (and you are right about the salespeople moving in. mummies, i am not going to run out and buy a sodding blu-ray.)
  • Kori · 5 months ago
    Hear, hear! I am a mother. I also happen to be a full time employee, I have been a single mother of four for 6 years, I am in the middle of "trying" to adjust to having my partner of four years actually move in. I am a writer, a lover, a friend, a psycho woman...and one of the worst things I can be called is a "Mommy Blogger." God help us all from those who pander to advertisers; it is just another thinly veiled layer of trying to prove you are better than you really are, and for me? SCREW that.
  • Angie [A Whole Lot of Nothing] · 5 months ago
    I'm far less than a perfect, cookie-cutter mom in both the figurative and actual senses.

    I'm also a lazy blogger with a bad memory to fill well-written blog posts.

    I just do what I do without being any kind of blogger anyone else wants me to be. I'm no maven, no rebel, no radical, and completely non-commercial-friendly.
  • Karen · 5 months ago
    I'm not a blogger, just a reader of a very select group of blogs. It amazes me that I don't like (at all) some of the blogs that have a million followers. What is wrong with me? It all seems so obnoxious. I know these women are not perfect, but that is what they preach.

    The odd thing is I would accept it from a different type of media, but I expect blogs to be different...real.
  • laels_mom · 5 months ago
    That's really sad to hear. Being fairly new to the mommy blog world I have seen good blogs and bad blogs. I have read those that seem prim and proper and I read those that seem real and honest. I had few tell me they didn't like the way I cursed on my blog and what not but it's mine. It's my blog, my pictures, my children. I will be honest about what I write and leave off things I don't feel I can be honest about. Keeping it real is all that matters not matter how much you're being paid.
  • April · 5 months ago
    I've been reading (hearing) a lot lately about the end of overparenting. Maybe this is not a new thing...maybe we've just findly found our outlet to speak up.
  • Aunt Becky · 5 months ago
    I think that in blogging, every couple of years a new crop of bloggers comes around.

    You get the ones that saw Dooce on the Today Show and are convinced that they'll open up a blog and make $40,000 off the bat. There are others who strive to HAPPILY become marketing blogs, lapping up the crappy stuff that (some) advertisers send. Then the last batch will be those who don't give a flying fuck what other people think and blog simply because they can and because they enjoy it.

    Most people enjoy the authentic bloggers the most, myself included. You want to crap out a press release for the Latest! Product! and expect me to read it or give you credibility? Doubtful. Not if I haven't given you my respect in the first place.

    (I'm leaving out those who blog merely as a way to keep family up to date on stuff -n- things)

    It evolves, it waxes and wanes, and you're right, along the way SOME of the formerly authentic bloggers WILL lose their real voice. Others will find it.

    In the end, some will be noteworthy, others will dissolve and the cycle will repeat itself again.
  • KristiStevens · 5 months ago
    Fascinating. I was just discussing this with a friend last night about my own blog. The consensus between us (for now and for me) is not to do it. I'm new, still getting my feet wet, and still finding my voice. I have no idea what will happen in the future and am HORRIBLE at self-promotion. But, I learned a long time ago to never say never. For me, the focus is on writing truthfully and authentically - and let's not forget well. The bloggers I see (including Lindsay) that do this, are the ones that I will read.
  • noreturnmom · 5 months ago
    This post and the reality of it bum me out. I started my blog in April, mostly because I didn't have the discipline to sit down and write the novel I've always wanted to pen or the attention span to build beautiful baby books for my kids. It was also sort of a natural evolution of the yakking I was already doing about my parenting experiences on Facebook.

    My goals have been to write well; to entertain and provide relatable, authentic experiences; to create a doily-free 21st century "baby book" that will give us all the real story to look back on.

    I am very grateful to you and the other bloggers who helped legitimize mom blogs--and deeply resentful of the sell-outs who give us all a questionable if not bad name.

    Yes, obviously, I'd also like to be compensated for the time and energy I put into my blog. So I do the social networking thing (through which I've met a handful of awesome people) and have joined an ad network. I treat my blog like a business and am slowly working to build a brand--one that reflects honesty and integrity. This may not be the easy or lucrative way to grow, but oh well.

    I read blogs like Suburban Turmoil partly to learn the business from people I think are doing it right. I'm already planning to attend BlogHer next year to soak up even more wisdom from REAL bloggers.
  • jennyherman · 5 months ago
    To answer this question: "why would an advertiser want a mother who admits on her blog to smoking the occasional cigarette and hiding in the closet sometimes when her kids won't stop fighting, when it can now have a mom who only posts pictures of herself smiling and perfectly made up, and who writes posts doling out plucky advice on everything from proper mascara application to what to wear to upcoming blog conferences?"

    BECAUSE.

    If advertisers are smart (a big assumption I know), they would know that REAL moms have too much to do without reading blogs that don't make them feel inspired, less alone, or fill the need to laugh their asses off. There is so much crap on the internet, even too many good blogs to keep up with them all. So I guess my hope is for all of you moms you are writing GOOD stuff, REAL stuff...those other blogs that are just in it for the money won't survive. We know too much now as moms, and we won't accept less than good writing and honest writing and funny writing. We won't waste our time with people who pretend this is easy and the don't have faults. Or at least we shouldn't.
  • melanie · 5 months ago
    once again, you've said what i'm thinking, better (or at least more well-researched!) than i could say it myself.

    i started to blog just to write down my kids' stuff. then i had the opportunity to write for two other blog networks. since then i have been trying to stay on the high wire of being true to myself and who i am and writing for a broader audience than i started with.

    it has been hard not to get sucked into the madness of the quest for comments. i have days where i write from the heart and nobody responds. does that mean it was bad writing or just a topic that others don't relate to? and then does it matter? we can say that we are just doing it for ourselves, but of course we want to know that someone out there is reading it and relates to what we are saying (thanks for the times you have commented, by the way). how do we write for an audience and still be "true" to ourselves?
  • Amy_Nathan · 5 months ago
    I think many of us struggle with this, and I wrote about what I call the "Promo-Moms." http://www.imperfectparent.com/view/shameless-s...

    Recently on Twitter I had a short bit of banter with a woman about reviews on blogs - and how everyone gets paid for reviews - like journalists. I almost went through the monitor because for the most part there is an enormous difference between journalists and bloggers. Yes, there's some overlap. But most bloggers are not professional writers or journalists. Reviewing products for goodies or for cash means I stay away from those blogs. The bloggers who cloak their reviews as posts infuriate me.

    It's not radical to be a mom blogger (my kids are teenagers, I am no longer a mommy) - but it's radical to put your blogging foot down and share original thoughts, untainted opinions and to write it with a bit of panache, finesse and maybe even proper English.

    Amy
    www.SuburbanKvetch.com
  • Heather, Queen of Shake Shake · 5 months ago
    I guess Corporate America is like the government - get their hands in a good thing and they'll screw it up.

    I haven't taken on advertising on my blog. I never knew that might be why I haven't launched into mommy blogging fame. I thought it was because I didn't spend 28 hours a day circulating around the blogosphere, twittering every time I had a bowel movement or boarded a plane, or kissing up to bigger bloggers. And possibly the quality of my writing. Who knew it's because I don't have ads?!
  • Melizzard · 5 months ago
    Oh Lindsey Thank You Thank You Thank You!! Thank goodness I'm not the only one who feels this way. The only thing I would add is that some of those original folks back in 2005 were the ones who led the way toward the commercialization as the "A-Lister" concept began to form around those original loud voices gaining commercial success. The beast sort of created itself.

    As a blogger whose never been in it for the money and who has been around in one way, shape, or URL since 2002 I've kind of gotten frustrated by it all. In fact I wrote a post a few weeks back saying Mommy Bloggers had Gotten Boring... cause really who cares what brand of cleaner cleans up your counter best... I want to know how it got dirty in the first place. That story is probably more fun.


    We've not entered the time of year where I know that the next month will be filled with posts of people talking about what they are going to wear or worse trying to find companies to cloth them for free. I've never attended a BlogHer conference because by the time I got to a place in my life where I could, my impression of it is it's just a big "build your brand" seminar where everywhere you turn there's a product placement in your face.... and not at all something where interesting things take place.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I've been to two BlogHers now and I really think it's the quintessential women's blogging conference. It is literally FILLED with so many different kinds of women, it makes your head spin.

    There's definitely plenty of attention paid to marketing and branding, but I like that there are also panels for women who aren't the slightest bit interested in marketing themselves. I do think they've done a good job of trying to appeal to every woman (and even some men).

    That said, I don't really go for the panels. I go for the CHEESEBURGERS. Heh.

    No, I go to see hundreds of my favorite bloggers under one roof. And for the parties, where I can hang out with my friends and have a blast. It is a heady whirlwind of a weekend and I absolutely LOVE it.
  • Melanie@thebloggingmum · 5 months ago
    I'd love to find other mothers like me- but so far I feel like the blogs I come across are a very specific kind of mother.
  • IzzyMom · 5 months ago
    Will you be getting a stinky cheese wheel this year? I just told someone that story the other day. Remember "the cheese stands alone"? Good times ;)
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    Ha ha ha! I haven't thought about the stinky cheese in a while! Kimberly won't be there this year, so alas, no husbands will be sending special stinky cheeses to the conference!
  • Amber · 5 months ago
    I've been blogging since 2003. I started it to keep my family up to date when we bought our house. I didn't even have my first baby for a couple of years. Was I a radical? I wouldn't say so, even though I was blogging I don't think I really understood it. I didn't understand the power of the community.

    Things changed a lot in 6 years. These days I can see the power, but I can also see people giving it up. It sort of frustrates me. Have a review blog, run ads, I won't begrudge you the chance to make some money. But don't sell yourself short, and don't pretend to be someone you're not so that you can get free stuff.

    I think the genuine voices do shine through, and I personally find much more value in their honesty. I really believe I'm not the only one, and I hope that will be enough to see us through.
  • zoot · 5 months ago
    I think this is exactly why I've always feared even trying to make money on my site (which I admit would be minimal anyway...) - I wouldn't want my voice to suddenly be false. I fear it would be if I tried to monetize my blog. I'm just realistic about my own personality - I know for SURE that my voice would change if money became a factor. If a woman can keep her voice AND make money? Good for her. But I'm not one of them.

    I think there are many real voices out there, still. But you have to hunt for them. I think they are often overshadowed, but I am still pleasantly surprised by the echos of my own experiences I find daily. The woman who admits she's been living out of her laundry basket for 6 months...the Mom who openly hates crafts...the family that throws away the artwork sent home from school. All truthful voices...but I have to look harder now.

    And rely heavily on my friends "shared items" in Google Reader. :)

    And I totally bogarted your comments again. *sigh* You're going to ban me one of these days...
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I agree those voices are still out there. I just want to see them get the recognition they deserve.
  • Rachael1013 · 5 months ago
    This was a really great post. I only started blogging in 2007 seriously and have been around for about a year. I have never considered myself a 'mommyblogger' because I think only maybe 25% of my posts are about that. For me, blogging is a way to have a part of myself that's not JUST mommy. But I think one of the reasons I was hesitant to take that label for myself is because by the time I came into the game, it was starting to get taken over by advertising, book deals, who makes money, blah blah blah. I'm not here for those things. I've always been a writer, and I needed a place to write. Being a Mom is so much part of who I am that I do blog about it. But I'm not after anything except for an outlet for my writing and making some friends, which I have. I guess in large part I blog to feel less alone, to be a part of a community that supports me in all parts of life, whether it's my dad getting hit by a car or the fact that my 3 year old doesn't give a rat's ass about the potty.
  • Reluctant Housewife · 5 months ago
    My blog has grown enough that, though it's still small, I've started getting offers from advertisers. These offers always assume I'm going to jump at the chance to review/partner/advertise them at the blog, but I haven't because none of them have been a good fit and none of them have been products or services I'd use or purchase.

    It's just not what I'm blogging for. I'm not in this for money or glory. I'm in this for me. There are no ads on my blog.

    I enjoyed this post and I agree with you. This new corporate blogging is depressing and boring to read. But there are still lots of blogs out there that are worth reading. At least that's been my experience. I don't think the 'radical' part of blogging is quite dead yet. At least I hope it's not!
  • Daisy · 5 months ago
    Mommy-blogging will be as radical as we make it. Stand up, Moms, and tell the truth! I prefer blogs that are authentic, and I hope advertisers hear me and hear the rest of you, too. Don't bother with perfection; we real moms don't believe it.
  • Audra Flammang · 5 months ago
    What a great post. Very thought-provoking. As new bloggers, my partner and crime and I have discussed this a lot. We started our blog to be genuine, enjoy the writing process, and strengthen our friendship. But of course we would love to earn enough income to be able to write/ be creative full time, rather than squeezing it in after the kids go to bed. We have no idea how to make any money at it though, so that helps keep us real!! We are still tickled just to get a comment :o)
    I am currently in non-profit, so I view this issue sort of the way I view my job- I don't go after grants that don't fit my organization's mission to a T. We don't change our programs to suit a grantor's guidelines, just to get the bucks. Sounds like exactly what you are talking about with blogging.
  • CeCe · 5 months ago
    I try to remain as real as possible.. without scaring the crabcakes out of my tens of readers. Maybe that's why I have no real offers? LOL

    I used to read tons and tons of blogs a few years ago.. but as authenticity starts to make her leave? I stop reading. I have a handful of blogs I read daily. You are one of them. Needed to be said, glad you said it.
  • Kay · 5 months ago
    I think the only thing we CAN do is not feed into it - by what we're doing already. Most of us don't read the "i'm only here for the money" blogs... and others will catch on, as long as we keep talking about it.
    We might be outnumbered by the plastic moms that are okay with things seeming to come right off the pages of a magazine - for now. But eventually even THEY will have to admit that they're not perfect, and hopefully find their way to the real blogs, where they can interact with real moms.
    I think there's really two different audiences - one looking for reality, and one looking for parenting magazine style blogs.
    I guess because my kids are older, and therefore nowhere near as willing to provide blog worthy entertainment, I don't feel like a "mommy-blogger". But yet I still read the blogs like yours, regardless of the age difference in our kids - because under all the differences, we're still women, still imperfect, and still moms.
    I don't think I said anything in all those words up there, did I?
  • Sissy · 5 months ago
    This is a popular topic lately! I figure I'm in no danger of becoming a blogger who writes only reviews, does giveaways, and plays SuperMom. I mean really, who has time for that mess AND Farm Town on Facebook?
  • Miss Grace · 5 months ago
    You have captured perfectly with this post why I cringe when I'm labeled a mommyblogger. I picture the new set of media savvy supermoms, and I cringe.
  • Amanda · 5 months ago
    Hmm.. well, I like to think I'm a mixture of real life and hallmark, but I really only blog for myself and my children. I am really doing it in place of scrapbooking and I print my blog yearly and one day I hope my kids appreciate it. So, I leave curse words out and although I am often honest about our chaotic house and my feelings of being overwhelmed, there is plenty of mushy gushy stuff as well (which by the way is also honest). But, I don't advertise and I get like 30 hits a day mostly from friends, family, and people who accidentally stumble onto me from random google searches. So, I guess I can write whatever I want, it doesn't matter much.
  • Lizzy · 5 months ago
    Hmmm... I won't be the happy smiley mom. Sure... i have my moments where I post cheesy pics of my kids or tell something funny... but then I try to get a group of people who don't know much about the world of social services to see what's it's REALLY like to try to navigate those waters... that's about as real as I can get unless I just start begging for money.
  • Rachel Britt Elliott · 5 months ago
    I'm a reader and not a writer. I spend most of my time either at work or immersed in my family. I read certain blogs and yours in particular because I want to know that I'm not alone, the last thing I want from a blog is someone trying to sell me on being the "perfect mom". As a matter of fact if a blog seems too commercial I just don't read it. You seem to have found a good balance.
  • FireMom · 5 months ago
    My adoption blog (http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com) has never compromised. And it never will. But no one wants to hear that story. It's ignored and written off because no one wants to hear "that" story. I mentioned my adoption story in my birth story post and people shunned it. No one wants to deal with it, to figure out what it means to them, to society. I've learned to deal with it. I write it because I need to write it.

    So, yes, genuine, radical voices are still out there.

    They're just not wanted.
  • Deb on the Rocks · 5 months ago
    I think what we are all noticing is the failure of a decent economic model to emerge to support writers who blog. In its absence, we are getting some base common denominator stuff that is led by advertisers and the (too often) inauthentic spokespeople who want to represent them. We need a new way!
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    Hear hear. I would love for this topic to come up at one of the BlogHer panels in a few weeks.
  • Jen · 5 months ago
    I actually started blogging in 2005. Then I stopped. I was busy and too tired to post. I wish now that I wouldn't have, maybe I'd be one of those mom's out there with all the paid endorsements. But, alas, I am not. I am back to blogging and sure, it'd be nice if I could make money off of it. But I don't, and honestly I don't care. I just like to write what I feel, think, or enjoy. And if no one reads it, so be it. I enjoy it!!
  • Amy · 5 months ago
    I just discovered 'mommy blogging', and honestly I just ignore the fluffier ones. I don't need 12 tips for getting my child to eat veggies and at this point if I do not know how to apply make-up, my problems go way beyond parenting issues. As a blog reader, I am more apt to read something with a different perspective, but that is I. I don't pick the books at the end of the aisle in the bookstore either. Some people are more prone to enjoy the glossy, polished semi-advice blogs out there. I suspect these are the same people who decorate their homes to look like the latest Pottery Barn catalog. Should they not have formats for their ideas, and if not do we really want them trolling our blogs. I don't. Let them have their Pottery Barn living rooms, glossy looking lives and I will keep my snot covered children to myself.

    As a blogger, I don't consider my blog to be 'mommy blog'. I blog about stuff that amuses me, and oh by the way, I happen to be a mom. As to issue of something being radical, I guess I am of the opinion that the minute something is deemed radical is ceases to be so, and that is just normal. Hippies were radical in the Summer of love until Coca Cola pick up on it and made that lifestyle a slogan.
  • melissa · 5 months ago
    i've been blogging for two years. i missed the very beginning of the whole mommy blogging phenomenon. but, i didn't miss the point of blogging. to write...and hopefully well. to document your life in whichever creative way your fingers fly on the keyboard, guided by whichever side of your brain is dictating.
    i've never done it for money. honestly, i've never really had the option. i'd like to think though, that it would change who i am. a mommy blogger.
  • mimi smartypants · 5 months ago
    Not to be all radical and shit, but I think the best solution is not to advertise. What's so wrong about thinking hard about why you're blogging in the first place? If it's to make money: fine, advertise. If it's to be "accepted" as a "voice" in the "blogosphere"---well, to be honest, I'm not even sure what that means. If it's because you have stuff to say and enjoy thinking of creative ways to say it, then what does that have to do with advertising?
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    Well, for me, accepting advertising had a lot to do with money- It helped make the idea of staying home with my kids without spending all of our savings in the process a reality. It also helped my husband see this blog as more than a time-sucking hobby. He was about a hundred times more on board once the checks started coming in. Heh.

    Looking back, accepting advertising also helped legitimize me and this blog in the minds of a lot of people out there, so as someone who really wanted to be a writer for a living, it ended up being a smart career move.

    But I also feel sometimes like I opened a Pandora's box. Now, looking at what's happened, I'm afraid "our" space is in danger of becoming Walmart's or Johnson & Johnson's space. It was probably inevitable, though. We're that good. ;)
  • harrtyimes · 5 months ago
    I think the really good blogs are unchanged and still radically honest , and I agree with you that readers do know a difference. I wonder, though, if the commercialization of mommyblogs is radical in and of itself-- finally women making money being mothers/performing motherhood.
  • Shannon · 5 months ago
    I cam across your blog, just today, through Angry Julie... Although your post makes perfect sense in the world of people who are out to make money on their blogs... people should be REAL and I really don't see many blogs around where people are telling it how it really is! Me... I am not blogging for the money or the fame... I love the community and reading about real people, what they do day to day and also looking at some beautiful art! I also blog so that family and friends can read about what's happening day-to-day in our lives... and don't really expect a huge audience for that! And... I think that's just FINE. I'm completely comfy with the reasons I blog and don't feel like all of my dirty little secrets need to be shared with the world, however, when I do have a bad day, my readers typically know all about it! Thank you for your honesty here! Sounds like you have been just that since day one!
  • Melissa Silverstein · 5 months ago
    Great post. I actually think that this is an issue that many people in the blogosphere are struggling with not just moms. Cutting edge voices are always ahead of the curve and then the mainstream comes in and takes over and everything gets watered down.

    Everybody wants women to be cut from a cookie cutter mold because that makes everything so much easier. Doesn't it? If we all look the same, wear the same clothes, put kids in the same clothes, have kids that make perfect shits (and I'm not a mom but my friends and sisters kids have shit on me plenty of times for me to know that that's pretty normal) etc then everything will just be perfect wouldn't it.

    People need to decide what they want from the blogosphere. As a feminist blogger who writes about Hollywood I have come to terms with the fact that my blog won't ever be that big but the thing that has kept it growing and keep my current audience coming back is my authenticity.

    As you know it's a lot of work to blog regularly. I believe that the blogosphere is going through some serious growing pains and the momosphere is on the cutting edge of it because women are in charge of so much of the money.

    But I also believe that the good writers and the authentic voices will be able to rise above the din and those who persevere will be rewarded, maybe not monetarily but in some other ways.

    Thanks for your honesty and I will look forward to meet you at blogher.

    Melissa
  • Tere · 5 months ago
    A someone who began blogging anonymously in 2000 and in her current, non-anonymous incarnation in 2006, I've never been in it for money or *fame*, and I have attained neither. And I'm very o.k. with that.

    Sometimes, I think we need to ask ourselves, "why I am doing this? why did I start in the first place?" I would say many of us started blogging just to share our lives, to connect, to keep a record, to become better writers, etc. Those all were my reasons, anyway.

    I think the *power* we've been declared to have, as well as the changing face of advertising and PR, and the way we play into that, and how the whole process has been developing, has indeed hurt whatever purer, fresher, more unique thing we were just a few years ago.

    At this point, all this noise about the *power* of mommy bloggers has become a cacophony, and frankly, I think the whole thing is a big mess now. I see blogs that are nothing but slick, money-making gimmicks disguised at mom blogs pop up left and right, but the content is crap. And other blogs that were once great reads that have lost their voice (or become caricatures of female stereotypes) as they've attained more sponsors/fame/recognition.

    And I can't help but feel that the more a blog becomes about sponsored content or ads or reviews (and by the way, I participate in BlogHer and do reviews from time to time, if it's a product I really like), the less original and compelling it becomes. I've stopped reading many blogs because the spark is gone.

    In the middle of this, I see more bloggers trying too hard and falling into and feeding oversimplified stereotypes: Stepford, bitchy, melodramatic, or faux-"tell it like it is." This, I have to say, is the most grating aspect of the mom blogger phenomena for me.

    I remain resistant to joining networks and putting ads on my site and doing sponsored posts, reviews, etc. I still blog to become a better writer, to share my life, to keep a record. I don't knock anyone trying to make money from blogging (and succeeding), but for me, it's not worth it. I don't have the time or energy (or interest) required to really monetize my blog (and all that goes with it), and if that means missing out on being a "top mommy blogger", so be it.

    In the end, it still boils down to content for me. I want to write something I can be proud of and is uniquely me. And I want to read the same. I think the good news in all this and that there are still some great voices out there, and that many of the companies that work with blogs to advertise and such really do want to support us and find ways for everyone to win.

    I think, like with any trend, the dust will settle and a new norm will be established. This is, at the very least, a very interesting ride.
  • Emily from Mommin' It Up · 5 months ago
    "But must we lose our radically real voices in the process? "

    Of course not.
  • devilishsouthernbelle · 5 months ago
    Despite being a mom, I never was really a part of the mommyblogging community simply because my kids are older, and it has been a bit of a challenge finding moms of teenagers who also blog. I think that's how this whole mommyblogging phenomenon managed to pretty much pass me by. But it really is a shame that there are apparently so many wonderful writers who are off the radar now.

    Just surfed in via Zoot, but I've popped in here a time or two on my own :)
  • cagey333 · 5 months ago
    "I'm seeing fewer authentic experiences out there and less incentive than ever before to share them. "

    Eh. I am inclined to disagree with this - there are loads of authentic voices out there. They are just not getting read because the focus tends to be on the bigger bloggers. And truthfully, one of the authentic bloggers I am thinking of specifically does not even want a large audience because of all the negative aspects that can come along with it - trolls, controversy, hate mail. I don't blame her, but damn - she writes good stuff and loves being a mother. Unapologetically.
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    The "focus on bigger bloggers" is exactly what I'm talking about. Like most blog surfers, I tend to read bloggers that are linked to on other websites. Many of the mom bloggers getting attention lately have been the ones who are marketing darlings, not necessarily the ones with the compelling content.

    And for the readers out there, that sucks. How are they supposed to even FIND the off-the-radar authentic bloggers you're talking about?
  • Andrea @ MommySnacks.net · 5 months ago
    Either I'm not reading these blogs you are referring to or I am one of them and am completely clueless!!

    People can write what they want, when they want, why they want. If PR likes it, that's cool. If no one likes it, that's fine. If me - as the blog author - likes it, that's what matters. It's my passion, my voice, my reputation. Luckily for me, my readers and PR appreciate what I share.

    I don't really care how someone else markets their blog, or writes content to get comments. There isn't a rule book on blogging. It sounds like it has changed *radically* since 2005. I'm guessing it will change a lot more by 2010!
  • suburbanturmoil · 5 months ago
    I want to agree that people can write what they want. And I do, when they're sharing their life experiences or feelings.

    But when they call themselves "influencers" and try to convince others that they represent mom bloggers and the mom blogging community, well, then it affects me, whether I like it or not. And so at that point, I have to care about what they're presenting on their blogs, and how they're presenting it.

    And I think that since that's happening more and more, dialogue about the issue becomes important- and inevitable.
  • Jerri Ann · 5 months ago
    I have every concotion under the sun. I have paid blogs that someone else handles that has no product push except for that mess of ads in the sidebar which is how I'm paid but I don't have to bother to handle............

    I have blogs where I write celebrity junk and throw in paid ads by a couple of networks...and other than that, they make me money and otherwise they never get a look.

    And, then I have blogs of niche' with no ads, no product placement but just for a unique group, for instance, my son's school district. No ads, on product push, but very boring if you don't have a kid in school with mine.

    And, then, I have my mommy blog. It does have a review page and I have to throw a push for a product in the main blog every know and again, like when a company shell's out $7K for me to go t a conference....or I have done a site upgrade and re-design and can't upload or something stupid..............but I do my best to keep it all about the family, the good the bad the ugly. I try to reach my inner self that started writing in 2001 on iparenting for a whopping $25 for 3 posts a week for a year............yea that's some big money uh?

    So, yea I think mommy blogging is still a radical act.......and that would be that pure mommy blogging is as hard now as it was back then because............people are asking you how you monetize, what products you've received? And to say, oh I don't, I just blog for me..........yea that's hard to do. And I am not saying that I am some super radical woman because I do blog for the money in so many ways.........but I try to hang on to my mommy blog too but even it has been infringed upon every now again........
  • babsalaba · 5 months ago
    Y'know, I never really noticed this carpetbagging mommy-blogger phenomenon until recently, mostly because I'd had a small group of blogs I read, none of which were terribly big. I got slapped in the face with it via Twitter of all places in the contest/giveaway RT-frenzy.

    I admit that I fell for it at first, and for about two weeks, I shamelessly retweeted and linked and emailed proof of links for extra contest entries, and for what? Some book I didn't know I'd needed until I read some 140 character Tweet about a giveaway?

    It was then that I noticed just how many of these so-called "mommy-blogs" sponsored contests and giveaways. Just how many of those "readers" were stopping by for the chance to snag something free? It's pretty distasteful. I felt dirty even taking part in it, to be honest. I didn't care what these women blogged about, I felt the lust for free stuff bloom in my breast. Gimme-gimme-gimme. Ugh. I would hate to have people swooping in on my blog, talons outstretched for swag.

    Sure, apologists may pull the standard "Jealous, much?" but I'd rather have my loyal following and daily hits in the dozens and few, sometimes even no comments, if it means I still write what I want to write, and write from the heart.

    What is this shiny-faced, bullshit presentation of motherhood designed to attract advertisers anyway? It's inauthentic at best, and prostitution at worst.
  • Chrissy P · 5 months ago
    Interesting...I attended a blogging conference this spring that left me inspired and discouraged, in equal measure. I'm absolutely a mommyblogger who has been left behind. Of course, I take responsibility for a large part of that, having tempered my voice since job searching (and discovering that my boss reads my blog). But, I don't measure up to advertising standards, nor can I afford to custom design my site. I'm still writing, for the reasons that caused me to start; capturing my mommy moments in "real time". Any friends I make around the blogospere are icing on the cake.
  • Kyran Pittman · 5 months ago
    Nothing to add. Just admiration for the deep-thinking community you continue to attract and cultivate. xo
  • Sib · 5 months ago
    Lindsay... apologies in advance for the length of this comment but found your post via another blog ... and loudly APPLAUDING you for it. FINALLY! Someone SAYS IT. Thank you, thank you.

    RE: "I'm seeing fewer authentic experiences out there and less incentive than ever before to share them. Clearly, I'm all for making money off of our blogs if we can.... But must we lose our radically real voices in the process?"

    My honest stance on that question is: NO. While I definitely acknowledge the pressure MANY passionate bloggers feel in doing just this (ie: self censoring) for "advertiser appeal" ... I still say "no" to losing one's own voice.. It also seems to me that appeasing for advertising sake creates ultimately - the exact opposite effect intended. For example: writers I once visited precisely for their authenticity - I no longer do because they are no longer "authentic", fun or engaging.... most importantly - they are no longer rateable.

    So in conversion terms for the advertiser this translates as: "I don't know what you are selling because: Your advertisements are not reaching me and others like me that don't read canned, choreographed, contrived marketing material peddled under the SEO friendly term of mom blogger or otherwise because the venue is predictable, boring and uninteresting."

    That about sums it up. :)))) And what you said here nails it:

    "Today, if a mom blogger wants online authority... She'd do well to make sure every hair is in place (courtesy of her stylist), her flab is firmly in check (thanks to EA SPORTS Active), and she has a media kit handy, to send out to potential sponsors......... After all, why would an advertiser want a mother who admits on her blog to smoking the occasional cigarette and hiding in the closet sometimes when her kids won't stop fighting, when it can now have a mom who only posts pictures of herself smiling and perfectly made up, and who writes posts doling out plucky advice on everything from proper mascara application to what to wear to upcoming blog conferences..."

    I printed this and am hanging it on my pegboard here. It's real - it's relevant - and it's freaking true. It's encouraging to know I'm not alone in observing the same trends... This post and all the insightful thoughts shared by the commentators here really just made my day.
  • Sib · 5 months ago
    Typo: Should have been "relate-able" not "rateable" in the 3rd paragraph above (that darn spell checker)...

    And Postscript: Ok, hate me for admitting this - but after about 3 days with blogher - I just stopped participating, and for this exact reason:

    "...I miss the feeling that we were making a difference .... I miss the time when BlogHer was less about aggressive self-promotion and connecting with marketers, and more about meeting online friends in person. ..."
  • Jo Coiner Burzycki · 5 months ago
    I started blogging after being diagnosed with cancer. I had a medical blog but got tired of my life being nothing but doctors so I started my other blog, Life With Heathens. I enjoyed just being myself but eventually I fell under the pressure of wanting to be a "mommy blogger" and wanting to be popular. Eventually that led to companies wanting me to do reviews and it all became such a damn hassle that I no longer enjoyed blogging.

    In fact I pretty much quit that shit last year because it just wasn't worth it anymore and only recently started back up.

    Personally these days I think mommyblogging is becoming more a joke than a radical act. I think a very large number of blogs out there only want to be the next big thing and the ones that Honda gives cars to next (example not sure if they do).

    Life is too short to care more about what you can get from a company than fun. I may not want to read about every time someone's kid takes a shit but at the same time I DO want to read other moms saying their house looks like hell, the kids are needing a foot in the ass (figuratively), and the husband needs shipped to Hong Kong in a pickle barrel every so often.

    I personally want REAL mom bloggers who just talk about the funny and sometimes fucked up crap their family does you know? THAT to me is radical and real and I miss that.
  • mom101 · 5 months ago
    I know I sound like a broken record but the skillful parenting bloggers (ok, mommybloggers) remain powerful, influential, smart. They get the best opportunities from the BlogHer network, they participate in Momversation, they rake in bucks through Federated Media, they write newspaper columns (!!) and occasionally find themselves on Oprah.

    And then there are review bloggers. They have started blogs with the purpose of making money, not to compete with you or me or the Parent magazines. They're going to get business press because they have corporate backers. It's a whole different world. It's indie rock versus prefab pop. It's Charlie Kaufman versus whoever wrote Firehouse Dog.

    The best we can do is try and share those authentic experiences and that great writing as much as we can. I don't care if there are crappy review bloggers out there (although I do remain confounded as to why any brand wants a review from someone who doesn't know how to use an apostrophe or, generally, a paragraph return and seems to LOOOOVE every product equally). What I do want is for moms who want to blog to know there's satisfaction in blogging that has nothing to do with whether or not you've been invited on a cereal company factory tour.

    Let's just say you've got more than 100 comments here. And you didn't need to offer a giveaway to get them.
  • Diane · 3 months ago
    Love this article!!